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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
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    Yes, but do you agree that this is a bad thing?
    I believe in Freedom Of Association. I do think that as a public accommodation a business should be required to put their prejudices on their door or in their adverts. If you don't want Jews buying houses in Chevy Chase Mews, then you should have it in the ad so there is no confusion or embarrassment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    No, this has everything to do with attacking religion. Gay groups are specifically targeting religious businesses or businesses who's owners are devout Christians and are attacking them and forceing them to conform to their lifestyle.
    How would they have known that these were devout Christians? Maybe they're only Christian when it's convenient or there is a political axe to grind .... like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    If you don't want Jews buying houses in Chevy Chase Mews, then you should have it in the ad so there is no confusion or embarrassment.
    That is comparing apples to beef jerky.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    I believe in Freedom Of Association. I do think that as a public accommodation a business should be required to put their prejudices on their door or in their adverts. If you don't want Jews buying houses in Chevy Chase Mews, then you should have it in the ad so there is no confusion or embarrassment.
    One would think that having it in the ad would be embarrassing, too, but whatever.

    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    How would they have known that these were devout Christians? Maybe they're only Christian when it's convenient or there is a political axe to grind .... like you.
    How do we know that the gays who applied for the cake were really exclusively gay, and not bi or gay-for-pay, as some porn stars are? Maybe they're only gay when it's convenient or they have a political ax to grind, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    How would they have known that these were devout Christians? Maybe they're only Christian when it's convenient or there is a political axe to grind .... like you.
    You're kidding, right? They live in the same town. My guess is that this bakery has scripture on their walls, a cross, or Jesus fish hanging somewhere. Some indication of their faith. Like the lesbian couple who sued the photographer who had scripture in their yellow pages ad. Believe me, this gay couple knew where this bakery stood. They're the ones with the political axe to grind because they could have gone to another bakery instead of putting the owners of this one's faith on trial. It's the faggots, not the Christians here starting crap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    You're kidding, right? They live in the same town. My guess is that this bakery has scripture on their walls, a cross, or Jesus fish hanging somewhere. Some indication of their faith. Like the lesbian couple who sued the photographer who had scripture in their yellow pages ad. Believe me, this gay couple knew where this bakery stood. They're the ones with the political axe to grind because they could have gone to another bakery instead of putting the owners of this one's faith on trial. It's the faggots, not the Christians here starting crap.
    Unless they had a sign that says "We don't serve gay people." then there is no reason to assume that they don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    How would they have known that these were devout Christians? Maybe they're only Christian when it's convenient or there is a political axe to grind .... like you.
    As I recall the story (it surfaced a few months back), the rugmunchers trying to order the cake announced they were rugmunchers, i.e., that the wedding cake was for them.

    This prompted the business owner to politely decline the order, as producing the cake is tantamount to openly supporting the relationship.

    This enraged the rugmunchers, who escalated the issue waaaaaaay beyond anything reasonable.

    It became a witch hunt for the Christians. It wasn't enough that the bakery just politely decline the order, and openly stating the exact reason why. The business owners were honest and up front with their misgivings right from the start.

    I'd say they should have cooked up an excuse as to why they couldn't fill the order (we're on vacation at that time, our oven is scheduled for maintenance at that time, we're so busy at that time of year that it's possible we couldn't get to it, so please leave your name and number and we'll get back to you), but these people just don't lie.

    And it cost them their business.

    And the rugmunchers are flossing merrily away. Or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    That is comparing apples to beef jerky.
    No it isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eupher View Post
    As I recall the story (it surfaced a few months back), the rugmunchers trying to order the cake announced they were rugmunchers, i.e., that the wedding cake was for them.

    This prompted the business owner to politely decline the order, as producing the cake is tantamount to openly supporting the relationship.

    This enraged the rugmunchers, who escalated the issue waaaaaaay beyond anything reasonable.

    It became a witch hunt for the Christians. It wasn't enough that the bakery just politely decline the order, and openly stating the exact reason why. The business owners were honest and up front with their misgivings right from the start.

    I'd say they should have cooked up an excuse as to why they couldn't fill the order (we're on vacation at that time, our oven is scheduled for maintenance at that time, we're so busy at that time of year that it's possible we couldn't get to it, so please leave your name and number and we'll get back to you), but these people just don't lie.

    And it cost them their business.

    And the rugmunchers are flossing merrily away. Or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    No it isn't.

    Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?


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    You shouldn't plow the ass either.
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