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  1. #1 The Arabs will pay for mr. Obama's war 
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    Kerry: Arab countries offered to pay for invasion

    Secretary of State John Kerry said at Wednesday’s hearing that Arab counties have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating President Bashar al-Assad if the United States took the lead militarily.

    “With respect to Arab countries offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.”

    Asked by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) about how much those countries would contribute, Kerry said they have offered to pay for all of a full invasion.

    “In fact, some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we’ve done it previously in other places, they’ll carry that cost,” Kerry said. “That’s how dedicated they are at this. That’s not in the cards, and nobody’s talking about it, but they’re talking in serious ways about getting this done.



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    Adelson New Obama Ally as Jewish Groups Back Syria Strike
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    Lobbying on Syria has inspired coalitions of the unlikely, aligning President Barack Obama with Sheldon Adelson, the Republican billionaire who spent about $70 million trying to defeat him last year, in the push for a military response to the use of chemical weapons.

    Opponents of U.S. military intervention in the civil war-torn Middle Eastern country include Occupy Wall Street, which protests against Wall Street profits; Code Pink, an antiwar group; and the Russians.

    Interest groups and activists are ratcheting up their advocacy ahead of the Sept. 9 return of Congress to Washington, when lawmakers plan to take up Obama’s request for authorization of a limited military strike. The request came after U.S. officials concluded that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime on Aug. 21 fired chemical weapons into rebel-held areas near Damascus that killed more than 1,400 people, including 400 children.

    “For our credibility, we have to do something,” said Morris Amitay, founder of the pro-Israel Washington Political Action Committee.

    The president has said a military response is necessary to uphold a longstanding international ban on chemical weapons use and to deter Assad from using them again on his people or such neighbors as Israel and Jordan, two U.S. allies.
    Rabbis’ Briefing

    Obama made the same argument Aug. 30 on a 30-minute conference call with 1,000 rabbis. Obama conducts such a call annually. This time, at the White House’s request, Syria was the topic of the first question, asked by Rabbi Gerald Skolnik of the Forest Hills Jewish Center in Queens, president of the Rabbinical Assembly, the association of Conservative rabbis.

    While Iran wasn’t mentioned in the call, it was viewed by participants as part of the context of the president’s remarks. ‘We have a very strong stake in the world taking seriously our insistence that weapons of mass destruction should not proliferate,” said one of those on the call, Rabbi Rick Block, president of the Central Conference of American Rabbis, a New York-based organization of Reform rabbis.

    The support Obama is getting from pro-Israel groups in the U.S. is important because of their history of political influence. The American Israel Public Affairs Committee and other Jewish groups have long helped secure continued U.S. aid to Israel, mobilizing activists who visit or call lawmakers. The effort is supplemented by several political action committees that donate to candidates depending on their support for Israel.
    Political Giving

    The pro-Israel community contributed $14.5 million to federal campaigns for the 2012 elections, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. That’s more than the $11.1 million in donations by the defense aerospace industry, one of the biggest and most consistent political contributors.

    While most of the Jewish groups’ donations lean Democratic, Adelson alone transformed the 2012 Republican primary when he and his wife used $15 million in private funds to sustain the unsuccessful candidacy of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich and then poured $53 million into groups advancing Republican nominee Mitt Romney. In all, Adelson and his wife donated $93 million to Republican causes in the 2012 campaign, center data shows.

    The Republican Jewish Coalition, which counts Adelson as a board member, yesterday sent an “action alert” to its 45,000 members, directing them to tell Congress to authorize force. “This is not a partisan issue,” the coalition said in its message.
    Adelson Support

    It spent $6.4 million against Obama last year, according to the center, a Washington-based research group that tracks campaign spending.

    Adelson, a Las Vegas casino owner, supports the coalition’s Syria message, his spokesman Ron Reese said in an e-mail.

    The RJC’s counterpart, the National Jewish Democratic Council, today added its voice to a chorus of U.S.-based Jewish groups urging military intervention. Others include AIPAC, the Anti-Defamation League and the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations.

    Their advocacy began after a telephone briefing yesterday with White House deputy national security advisers Tony Blinken and Ben Rhodes, who outlined the case for action against Syria, according to a participant who asked for anonymity because he wasn’t authorized to discuss it publicly. ......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Kerry: Arab countries offered to pay for invasion

    Secretary of State John Kerry said at Wednesday’s hearing that Arab counties have offered to pay for the entirety of unseating President Bashar al-Assad if the United States took the lead militarily.

    “With respect to Arab countries offering to bear costs and to assess, the answer is profoundly yes,” Kerry said. “They have. That offer is on the table.”

    Asked by Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) about how much those countries would contribute, Kerry said they have offered to pay for all of a full invasion.

    “In fact, some of them have said that if the United States is prepared to go do the whole thing the way we’ve done it previously in other places, they’ll carry that cost,” Kerry said. “That’s how dedicated they are at this. That’s not in the cards, and nobody’s talking about it, but they’re talking in serious ways about getting this done.



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    If true, that Iran is in big trouble.
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    The last time I checked, the United States of America's military wasn't for hire.

    The military is not a mercenary army, available to the largest bidder.

    Or did I miss something somewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eupher View Post
    The last time I checked, the United States of America's military wasn't for hire.

    The military is not a mercenary army, available to the largest bidder.

    Or did I miss something somewhere?
    I'm willing to let the Arabs pick up some of my expenses, but I want a bonus for when Assad is caught and killed, even if I'm not the one who does it. Oh, and since we're talking Arabs, I want my payment in gold, not local currency, and definitely not in livestock.

    Seriously, if the Arab states are willing to foot the bill, they ought to be willing to put the force together, under American leadership, a true coalition, and they have to fight alongside Israelis, since Iran has threatened Israel with retaliation against any US-led attack.
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    Kerry is a Democrat, his mouth was moving, this means he was lying.
    The difference between pigs and people is that when they tell you you're cured it isn't a good thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Kerry is a Democrat, his mouth was moving, this means he was lying.
    I don't know... If we can't trust the most successful gigolo in US history, who can we trust?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    I'm willing to let the Arabs pick up some of my expenses, but I want a bonus for when Assad is caught and killed, even if I'm not the one who does it. Oh, and since we're talking Arabs, I want my payment in gold, not local currency, and definitely not in livestock.

    Seriously, if the Arab states are willing to foot the bill, they ought to be willing to put the force together, under American leadership, a true coalition, and they have to fight alongside Israelis, since Iran has threatened Israel with retaliation against any US-led attack.
    Exactly my point. Since they didn't offer, none of that would be forthcoming. So Americans get to do the fighting and the dying while Barry's coffers get filled with some of what the Arabs have purchased/stolen from us to begin with.

    I call that a lose for us and win for them. And an insult.
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    I don't like this.

    I'm not a mercenary to be used at other countries beck and call who can't fight their own fights.
    In most sports, cold-cocking an opposing player repeatedly in the face with a series of gigantic Slovakian uppercuts would get you a multi-game suspension without pay.

    In hockey, it means you have to sit in the penalty box for five minutes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Oh, and since we're talking Arabs, I want my payment in gold, not local currency, and definitely not in livestock.
    Sure, if you're talking Jordanian, Iraqi, Egyptian, Tunisian, Libyan, etc. money (Though where the Hell they'd come up with enough to pay an overdue book fine at this point is a mystery to me), but I sure wouldn't turn my nose up at a stack of Saudi Riyals or Kuwaiti Dinars!
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