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    SAO PAULO (Reuters) - A rancher in Brazil's Amazon was sentenced to 30 years in prison for ordering the 2005 killing of American nun and environmental activist Dorothy Stang, an emblematic case for the many conflicts over land use in Brazil's resource-rich interior.

    The courtroom was overflowing with Stang's supporters when Vitalmiro Bastos Moura, 43, was declared guilty just before midnight Thursday, the court in Para state said in a statement.

    Fellow activists fiercely criticized Brazil's judiciary system as moving too slowly and being too lenient in its response to the murder of the 73-year-old Roman Catholic nun.

    Stang was shot six times outside the small town of Anapu, where she worked as an advocate for landless peasants. She often criticized cattle ranchers for seizing land illegally and destroying the rainforest.

    It was Bastos' fourth trial in the Stang killing as he had appealed previous verdicts. Another local landowner, Regivaldo Galv„o, was found guilty of ordering Stang's death, but was granted a conditional release by the Supreme Court in 2012.
    Who the crap orders the death of a nun?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
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    Who the crap orders the death of a nun?
    Wrapping herself in the cloth doesn't change what she apparently was: a communist. Anytime you read about South America and "landless peasants" or "land reform" you are reading about communist. Not American get in your car and go talk about Marx at Starbucks communists, but backwoods communist militia groups. For some time now they have also been trying to paint a racial component on it. Somehow or other, where everyone is "brown" they sort them out into (some word generally translating to white aristocrat even if they would be a "person of color" in the US) , Indian, and a variety of hyphens like Afro-indigenous. Let there be no doubt about it though, the target there is the same as it is here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
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    Who the crap orders the death of a nun?
    Usually, communists and Muslims.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Usually, communists and Muslims.

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    And Contras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Usually, communists and Muslims.

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    Not always. Sometimes it's people like the Contras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    And Contras.
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    Not always. Sometimes it's people like the Contras.
    I did say "usually", but in fairness, the nuns in those cases were already communists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    I did say "usually", but in fairness, the nuns in those cases were already communists.
    Oh, well in that case they deserved to be beaten, raped and murdered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Oh, well in that case they deserved to be beaten, raped and murdered.
    No, although that is certainly what would have happened to millions of others if the communists had had their way. Does it justify the actions taken? No, but it does make them more explicable. As Nietzche said, "If you do battle with monsters, take care that you do not become a monster. When you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    No, although that is certainly what would have happened to millions of others if the communists had had their way. Does it justify the actions taken? No, but it does make them more explicable. As Nietzche said, "If you do battle with monsters, take care that you do not become a monster. When you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you."
    Yea. Nothing more threatening to a monster than feeding the poor and helping people find medical care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arroyo_Doble View Post
    Yea. Nothing more threatening to a monster than feeding the poor and helping people find medical care.
    Yes, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, they were such great humanitarians. The delusion of leftists that communism is about feeding the poor and helping people continues to amaze me, given the sheer weight of the evidence to the contrary. In this case, the nuns were Lenin's useful idiots, lending the sanctity of their position to a monstrous system. Can you really blame people for opposing that?

    Oh, and the nuns were not raped or killed by the Contras. It was the Salvadoran Guardia Nacionale. The Contras were Nicaraguan. A nun was killed in a Contra ambush, but Sister Maureen Courtney was travelling in a convoy that was mistaken for a Sandanista convoy in an area where combat operations were ongoing.
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