DUer Gun Paranoia:
phantom power (22,994 posts)
The reason these people want to carry guns in public places like Starbucks is to shut up anyone...
(Schultz) is missing the point, don't you think? The reason these people want to carry guns in public places like Starbucks is to shut up anyone who might think it's ok to have a political opinion with which they disagree --- and that includes the customers and the employees who don't want them to be in Starbucks carrying guns. I'm certainly not going to argue with people who are so committed they feel the need to ostentatiously wear a gun in public. It signals quite clearly that they are zealots on the subject and it's not safe to argue with armed zealots. And that's exactly what they mean to convey whether they admit it or not.
When I see people carrying guns, I leave the vicinity and that includes Starbucks. With all the accidental shootings in this country, it's not safe to be around these yahoos when they are carrying in any case. And those who are wearing their guns to make a political point are clearly trying to intimidate people. Who knows what they'll do? Starbucks is right to be alarmed.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2013/...anger-for.htmlStar Member The Magistrate (81,522 posts)
1. True, Sir: The Motive Is Intimidationkardonb (498 posts)
and a severe case of low self-esteem ; therefore they need a gun , psychologically , to make themselves feel more important . Sad sad people .Star Member Hekate (22,767 posts)
79. Intimidation it is, and my guess is they love every minute of it. Zimmerman is one of "those" ...
... and still packing heat wherever he goes.kentuck (68,948 posts)
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Whether they intend to do so or not - and I think they do - they intimidate people in public places. There is no place for that in America.Demo_Chris (3,246 posts)
10. I doubt it. I suspect for most it is a form of political speech...
I suspect most would WELCOME the chance to discuss the issue with you. Think of them as you would an evangelical crusader waving Biblical tractsOhio Joe (12,921 posts)
37. Someone going to get coffee wearing a loaded gun is... "polical speech"...
Yeah... Right...kentuck (68,948 posts)
56. They ain't fooling nobody.
They are saying: "Look at me M***F***ers! I got a gun! You don't like it, you can kiss my ass! You had better be afraid. I will wrap myself in the snake flag."
That is the message they are sending. It has nothing to do with the 2nd Amendment.Star Member hunter (17,275 posts)
11. Intimidate 'em back. Learned that from my mom.
Get the fuck out of here or I'll nail your balls to the wall.
What are they going to do, shoot you?Star Member hunter (17,275 posts)
27. They're "threatening violence." They mean to be intimidating.
Intimidate 'em back.
Merely by carrying a gun for no good reason they've already demonstrated that violence and intimidation are the only thing they understand.
Fuck 'em.OldRedneck (139 posts)
55. Call 911 . . .
Call 911 and breathlessly report "Man with a gun!!!" then hang up and don't answer when they call you back.
The place will soon be crawling with cops. They'll check him out and let him go (usually) but at least he'll be hassled.
If merchants discover that every time someone walks into their shop with a gun, the place will be crawling with cops, they'll put a stop to it . . . no business owner, manager, or franchisee wants his shop to be the place where the cops show up every day.Star Member The Straight Story (44,983 posts)
57. Bigotry and shameful
If you are traveling and leave your gun in the car and someone steals it people complain.
If you remove it from the car and carry it, people call you names.
When I was a security officer I carried a gun and kept it with me (you can't leave those things on site, especially when that site is an abandoned apt complex). Stop for gas, coffee, etc, I would wear it just like I would when working (whether in uniform or not, and I liked to change before I left to regular clothes).
Yes - there are SOME who will wear them out just to show off, intimidate others, etc - but the landslide of bigotry and fear pushing around here is shameful, especially considering that the people we all have issues with represent less than a percent of gun owners.
I thought all the shooters were carrying concealed anyway? Why the hell would a criminal open carry around? Never mind, things don't have to make since, they just have to feel a certain way.
I understand, that is why if I see a muslim praying or getting on a plane I get freaked out and worried...oh wait, we have a name for those sorts of reactions.DonCoquixote (6,332 posts)
The right wing knows that their power is to either intimidate, or be outright violent. They cannot win on facts. They will take every inch to make sure they will always show up armed to events, especially now since the voting rights act was gutted,and stand your ground laws make it legal to shoot brown people.