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#1 'Family Glitch' In Health Law Could Be Painful--DU: It's a Republican healthcare plan
09-24-2013, 12:56 PM
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Liberals are ramping up the "Obamacare is a Republican plan" meme. They're beginning to see how horrible a plan this is and how it is going to hurt Democrats in the next few elections.
Star Member Purveyor (15,183 posts)
'Family Glitch' In Health Law Could Be Painful
WASHINGTON — A so-called "family glitch" in the 2010 health care law threatens to cost some families thousands of dollars in health insurance costs and leave up to 500,000 children without coverage, insurance and health care analysts say.
That's unless Congress fixes the problem, which seems unlikely given the House's latest move Friday to strip funding from the law, which is also called the Affordable Care Act.
Congress defined "affordable" as 9.5% or less of an employee's wages, mostly to make sure people did not leave their workplace plans for subsidized coverage through the exchanges. But the "error" was that it only applies to the employee — and not his or her family. So, if an employer offers a woman affordable insurance, but doesn't provide it for her family, they cannot get subsidized help through the state health exchanges.
That can make a huge difference; the Kaiser Family Foundation said an average plan for an individual is about $5,600, but it goes up to $15,700 for families. Most employers help out with those costs, but not all.
"We saw this two-and-a-half years ago and thought, 'Has anyone else noticed this?'" said Kosali Simon, a professor of public affairs at Indiana University who specializes in health economics. "Everyone said, 'No, no. You must be wrong.' But we weren't, and that's going to leave a lot of people out."
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...ssues/2804017/Demo_Chris (3,316 posts)
57. Couple points:
If it were a good deal there would be no need for a mandate. The mandate allows insurance companies to charge more to some than they will receive in benefits, in order to funnel that money to others who will receive more than they paid in. Which is fine in principle, until you add in the additional conditions that the money you are taking from the mandated contributors was money they could not afford to lose, and thanks to co-pays and deductibles (and the principle bill eroding potential savings), money for which they will often see nothing in exchange.
Second, we are not talking about providing anyone with health care. Obamacare does not do that. Obamacare is an insurance mandate with some provisions to make that mandated insurance somewhat affordable by funneling taxpayer dollars directly to the insurance companies. It is, in every way, a wealth transfer to insurance providers. They not only get guaranteed by law customers, they get taxpayer subsidies and guaranteed profits built right in.
But no one is guaranteed healthcare.
Simply, it's a bad law, which is no surprise as it was written by the GOP and insurance companies.
In my opinion.Demo_Chris (3,316 posts)
9. When tens of millions of Americans with no money and crap jobs...
Suddenly discover that our party has now added a new multi-hundred dollar bill to their burden they are going to freak the fuck out.
And the GOP is going to be right there saying "We told you so!"Star Member Hydra (11,131 posts)
It's their program. They got to vote against it and say that it's going to destroy everyone.
How the hell did that happen??zipplewrath (9,350 posts)
39. Even Obama said it
He said it was not all that different from what the GOP proposed back in the '90s.Star Member ProSense (106,014 posts)
40. Obama also said
"He said it was not all that different from what the GOP proposed back in the '90s."
...it was Romneycare. Did he say Heritage supported the expansion of Medicaid? No, because they hate Medicaid. It's interesting that people will hang onto Obama's political rhetoric as fact, but are quick to call him a liar when they're determined to twist his words.
truedelphi (27,097 posts)
83. And it was stated again and again during election cycle 2012
That Rmoney shouldn't complain about Obama Care as it as identical to his insurance plan when he was the governor in Massachusetts.
09-24-2013, 01:07 PM
Let me get this right ...
DUers think Obamacare is a bad idea ... and think the Republicans thought it up and pushed it through into law ???
Hint for those who might be lurking ( you know who you are you ball-less p*ssies),
Its called OBAMACARE !!! And if you are too stupid to figure who came up with it , then its a sure sign that evolution gave up you some time ago.CU's Paranormal Expert.
Keep your powder dry, your sword sharp and your wits intact.
09-24-2013, 02:21 PM
Hey DUmmies, send a pic of healing white light to all the people OBAMACARE will hurt.May the FORCE be with you!
09-24-2013, 02:56 PM
FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 165
(Democrats in roman; Republicans in italic; Independents
H R 3590 RECORDED
VOTE 21-Mar-2010 10:49 PM
QUESTION: On Motion to
Concur in Senate Amendments
BILL TITLE: Patient Protection and
Affordable Care Act
---- AYES 219 ---
Jackson Lee (TX)
Sánchez, Linda T.
---- NOES 212 ---
Note the absence of a single house Republican voting for this atrocity.
09-24-2013, 05:21 PM
I'm glad I don't have kids.
09-24-2013, 07:01 PMNote the absence of a single house Republican voting for this atrocity.
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09-24-2013, 07:03 PM
09-25-2013, 12:20 AM
ObamaCare is to the Republican Party just as The Final Solution was to Yom Kippur. Mass genocide vs fasting and atonement for ones sins.
Only on DU would two completely opposite things be viewed as the same; this due to their brains being wired like spaghetti in a Kitchen Aid blender set on puree.
09-25-2013, 03:34 AM
Leftists M.O. Rewriting history is what they do. This is why Republican/Conservatives are war mongers even though every war in the 20th save for the 1st Iraq war was started with a Democrat in the White House. They like to lay the Klan at our feet even though they were created to be muscle for the Democrats. It's the same old song.The Obama Administration: Deny. Deflect. Blame.
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