09-25-2013, 12:15 PM
The first place I've heard about Bob Beckel was just now on CU.
But then again, I won't watch Fox news or news in general. I get most of my news from internet.
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09-25-2013, 02:10 PM
Okay, from what I understand mainstream Muslims do condenmn extremism. We just discussed how these extremists go after Mosques in other countries in another thread. In the case of Tsarnaev, their own mosque criticized their behavior before they attacked. The older one considered the congregants of mosque to be too moderate.
So, it sounds like there are plenty who criticize extremism. I think those extremists know who is who better than we do.
What would it take to meet your criteria of the moderates condemning the radicalism? They're speaking to the congregants, and that's more important than the news.
I'm also thinking that since radicals are threatening to murder them for speaking out, the last thing they need is for the "moderate" world to turn against them by not allowing them freedom of religion.
Also, these things tend to go underground. Would you like that to happen?
09-25-2013, 04:30 PM
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09-25-2013, 05:09 PM
I'm not so sure that what Beckel is proposing is actually unconstitutional.
Here's the quote again:
They are not the religion of peace,” agreed Beckel. “Listen, if people who are supposedly peaceful, you moderate Muslims out there. Now listen, I know I have been on this thing for a long time, but the time has come for you stand up and say something.”
He continued, “And I will repeat what I said before: No Muslim students coming here with visas. No more mosques being built here until you stand up and denounce what’s happened in the name of your prophet. It is not what your prophet meant as soon as I know. I don’t know his mother’s name and I don’t care. The point is, that the time has come for Muslims in this country and other people in the world to stand up and be counted, and if you can’t, you’re cowards.”
Regarding the construction of mosques, there's nothing unconstitutional about creating zoning laws that forbid such things. Buildings are buildings. Nothing religious about buildings.
Nope, if the muzzies can't denounce terror when it's as plain as the burka on her face, then taking some action to keep the bastards out and keeping them from building their own centers of terror in our own country could certainly be done without trampling on their "rights."U.S. Army, Retired
09-25-2013, 05:59 PM
09-25-2013, 07:28 PM
But more specifically, are you suggesting that it's impossible to stop an alleged house of worship from being built based on zoning laws? Or any other reason?
Granted, the ACLU would be all over that like stink on shit, but hey, all it takes is a city council or three with balls.
Maybe you're saying politicians are 'nadless these days. If so, I'd actually buy that argument.U.S. Army, Retired
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