#1 SCOTUS sides with Gitmo detainees.06-12-2008, 10:17 AM
Just saw on FOX that in 5 - 4 decision, SCOTUS says Gitmo detainees have rights under Constitution to be tried in Fed court and all the rights an American citizen would have. We should just let them all go and them see them again on the battlefield.Better to die on your feet than live on your knees.
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noonwitchGuest06-12-2008, 12:00 PM
I personally agree with their decision-not because I am sympathetic to the individuals involved, but because of the principle of a fair trial that we base our legal system upon is an important principle-we criticize other countries when they institute secret "kangaroo" courts, we can't be doing the same thing and expect to be respected by other nations.
I just hope that the judges involved are serious, like the one who heard McVeigh's trial, and not ridiculous, like Judge Ito on the OJ case.
gatorGuest06-12-2008, 12:04 PM
Granting citizen rights to combatant non citizens is a damn stupid thing to do and an indication that we a re a damn weak ass country that can't take care of itself.
We have got to the point where we never get it right anymore.
06-12-2008, 12:17 PM
In your quote you say we should listen to the founders.
Part of me wonders what the founders would say about detainees? I personally haven't studied it enough to really make an educated guess.
It seems it is a fair question to ask that if by denying people rights our founders said were "inalienable" to "All men", then this could lend itself to some hypocrisy. I've heard it argued that if the means that justify the ends conflict with your morality...then can you really say you are true to the morality you are trying to preserve?
Then again if they are released and they meet us again on the battlefield, they can be killed on that battlefield....case closed....no messing around with rights. ;)Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound - Unknown
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06-13-2008, 05:08 AM
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[QUOTE=noonwitch;6952]I personally agree with their decision-not because I am sympathetic to the individuals involved, but because of the principle of a fair trial that we base our legal system upon is an important principle-we criticize other countries when they institute secret "kangaroo" courts, we can't be doing the same thing and expect to be respected by other nations.
Miilitary Tribunals would have assured a fair trial without the leaks that our court system allowed when Clintoon tried the WTC terrorists. The leaks lead to disclosure of EXACTLY how to bring down the towers using a BFA. (Big F****** Airplane).
06-12-2008, 12:25 PM
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