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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Name me all the companies that are the "funders" of the GOP. I'll wait.
    Here's the top 10...

    Top PACs for 2013-2014 Cycle To Republicans

    $875,000 Every Republican is Crucial PAC
    $757,750 Northrop Grumman
    $611,001 Honeywell International
    $551,500 AT&T Inc
    $534,000 Koch Industries
    $515,000 Associated Builders & Contractors
    $469,000 Home Depot
    $443,500 American Bankers Assn
    $418,500 National Beer Wholesalers Assn
    $402,500 Lockheed Martin
    $402,250 Credit Union National Assn


    While we're at it, why not have a look at who's donating to Democrats (and how much)....

    Top PACs for 2013-2014 Cycle To Democrats

    $932,500 American Federation of Teachers
    $841,515 Operating Engineers Union
    $740,200 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
    $562,000 American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees
    $497,600 United Food & Commercial Workers Union
    $452,119 Honeywell International
    $441,500 Northrop Grumman
    $435,900 International Assn of Fire Fighters
    $413,500 American Assn for Justice
    $395,125 Teamsters Union
    $388,500 AmeriPAC: The Fund for a Greater America

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    My, my what a shock. Looks like the Democrats get more money from unions, than the Republicans get from big business...

    Here's a clue for Lanie. Most big companies give to both parties, but as you can see, their contributions to Democrats is so completely outstripped by union spending that they don't show on a top ten side-by-side comparison.

    As to the OP topic. Any and all means to stop the ACA from launching should be fair game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Name me all the companies that are the "funders" of the GOP. I'll wait.
    Are you serious?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    Are you serious?
    Yes. You seem to think this concept is indigenous to the GOP so let's see this list from unbiased sources on companies that fund the GOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReinMan View Post
    Here's the top 10...

    Top PACs for 2013-2014 Cycle To Republicans

    $875,000 Every Republican is Crucial PAC
    $757,750 Northrop Grumman
    $611,001 Honeywell International
    $551,500 AT&T Inc
    $534,000 Koch Industries
    $515,000 Associated Builders & Contractors
    $469,000 Home Depot
    $443,500 American Bankers Assn
    $418,500 National Beer Wholesalers Assn
    $402,500 Lockheed Martin
    $402,250 Credit Union National Assn


    While we're at it, why not have a look at who's donating to Democrats (and how much)....

    Top PACs for 2013-2014 Cycle To Democrats

    $932,500 American Federation of Teachers
    $841,515 Operating Engineers Union
    $740,200 Intl Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
    $562,000 American Fedn of St/Cnty/Munic Employees
    $497,600 United Food & Commercial Workers Union
    $452,119 Honeywell International
    $441,500 Northrop Grumman
    $435,900 International Assn of Fire Fighters
    $413,500 American Assn for Justice
    $395,125 Teamsters Union
    $388,500 AmeriPAC: The Fund for a Greater America

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    My, my what a shock. Looks like the Democrats get more money from unions, than the Republicans get from big business...

    Here's a clue for Lanie. Most big companies give to both parties, but as you can see, their contributions to Democrats is so completely outstripped by union spending that they don't show on a top ten side-by-side comparison.

    As to the OP topic. Any and all means to stop the ACA from launching should be fair game.

    This hook has a barb. Once it's set, it ain't coming out...
    Those are companies that make donations to the GOP. I want a list of companies that fund the GOP. Making political donations and actually funding the party are 2 different things. Also, you left out George Soros from your list of Democratic donators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Yes. You seem to think this concept is indigenous to the GOP so let's see this list from unbiased sources on companies that fund the GOP.
    Are you saying that you don't believe that corporations are making donations to the GOP or their candidates? Just like corporations and activist groups give money to the DNC. Are you saying you don't believe this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Those are companies that make donations to the GOP. I want a list of companies that fund the GOP. Making political donations and actually funding the party are 2 different things. Also, you left out George Soros from your list of Democratic donators.
    So, the GOP doesn't get funds from their donors? Is that what you believe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    Isn't it companies that are getting off the hook. They're funders for the GOP.

    I say go ahead and implement it all so we can figure out if we really do like green eggs and ham or not.
    Only some corporations are getting off the hook, and they are those that are connected to the Democrats. Among the most egregious are unions (which are corporations, just like GM, except that they don't build anything, they just extort concessions from productive enterprises). Oh, and congressional members and their staffers. End the waivers and Obamacare will become toxic to its most fervent supporters. This is why they are trying to blame this atrocity on conservatives. It's just another lie.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    So, the GOP doesn't get funds from their donors? Is that what you believe?
    No, Lanie, nobody believes that. What we're saying is that most large corporate donors give to both parties to hedge their bets. The meme about Republicans being the party of big business was never really true, but it's be even more demonstrably false in recent years. A highly convoluted tax and regulatory environment benefits established corporations by raising the bar to new competitors who don't have the resources to lobby and carve out special deals and exemptions. This is why Wall Street supports Democratic candidates and small businesses support Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    Only some corporations are getting off the hook, and they are those that are connected to the Democrats. Among the most egregious are unions (which are corporations, just like GM, except that they don't build anything, they just extort concessions from productive enterprises). Oh, and congressional members and their staffers. End the waivers and Obamacare will become toxic to its most fervent supporters. This is why they are trying to blame this atrocity on conservatives. It's just another lie.



    No, Lanie, nobody believes that. What we're saying is that most large corporate donors give to both parties to hedge their bets. The meme about Republicans being the party of big business was never really true, but it's be even more demonstrably false in recent years. A highly convoluted tax and regulatory environment benefits established corporations by raising the bar to new competitors who don't have the resources to lobby and carve out special deals and exemptions. This is why Wall Street supports Democratic candidates and small businesses support Republicans.

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    I strongly suspect you're talking 'waaaaay over her poor little head. She just want to play 'Mock the strawman,' rather than talk like an adult.
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