Thread: The GOP surrenders... as usual
10-12-2013, 12:35 AM
Sad but I'm not surprised.May the FORCE be with you!
10-12-2013, 01:47 AM
- Join Date
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- Locked in a Dungeon, being tortured and LOVING IT!
Reading what was posted in the first article aside, take out the "Surrender" and try and see a strategy.
Its a total risky one for what I see.
What it does is switches the fight from the budget to the debt ceiling. 6 weeks to work out a deal, or off the cliff we go. It re-opens every thing, and yes funds obamacare.
Plus side of this. Takes the heat off the GOP for the blame I'm sure they are feeling, or fearing. It makes it look like they them selves are trying to work out a deal and not be obstructionist. It looks like they want to talk.
Down side, gives obama a victory claim, shoots moral for the right in the ass. Sets them up for a worse fight.
First up is the debt ceiling. obama will now feel empowered, and as such, less likely to deal. The right wont want to take the blame for forcing us over the cliff.
Then look at the second part, roughly 65 days till another shutdown. I'm sure there is part of this agreement that obama and the dims sit down and in good faith actually talk debt reductions. But now what is their motivator? All they need to do is wait till Dec. 15 and let this all happen again. And now obama has a strong playbook ready to go because he'll know it already will work. Plus look at what happens 10 days later. Who wants to bet, part of that shutdown will include the airports? Imagine that mess.
Obama has less reason now to hold true to any promises to work a deal, and I fear the GOP leadership to lesson the fears of their members walked them selves into a worse trap then the one they went into originally.Klaatu barada nikto
10-12-2013, 03:20 AM
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Oblahblah plays bitter hard ball with the American people (and their reps) but he bows to the Mullahs.
It looks like the fix is in. The mullahs will certainly get their nukes and ICBMs, and neither Israel nor the Saudis (who are scared to death of the mullahs) will rely on American protection as long as Obama is in office. Obama just put out the welcome mat for Mullah Rouhani, the killer of 245 U.S. Marines in Beirut in 1984, and the ultraleft UK Guardian just claimed that its readers voted for Great Humanitarian Rouhani to be the next winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. The post-Stalinist Guardian is not known for telling the truth too often, and nobody knows if that "survey" is real or not. But the Guardian and the BBC are the two biggest hard-left organs of propaganda in Europe, and they have long promoted a kind of Hitler-Stalin Pact between European socialists in the EU and radical Muslims of both stripes in the Middle East. These are politically powerful signals, and they will be read as such around the world.
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10-12-2013, 09:15 AM
And also as usual, the so called free press goes blindly with oBAMA. For some stupid reason
the Republican Leadership has STILL not learned the leason that the media will never like them,
as if that should matter. The computer fuckups are just "growing pain" and to be "expected".
Instant pass. So the late night guys make some jokes, that's it???
Imagine if Bush and the Rethugs were doing this, what do you think we'd see and hear 24/7???
Bottom line is, oBAMA will get his way. And it also won't matter how badly run the ACA
system is, in the end it will be "wonderful" and Lord O will get all the credit.May the FORCE be with you!
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10-12-2013, 12:13 PM
0bama says 'no deal' to the House. Now it looks like its up to the wizards of smart in the Senate, like Mitch McConnell, Susan Collins, Lindsey Grahamnesty and John McCain to shred the constitution even more than the House would to 'cut a deal'.
We are so screwed.
Focus on Senate after Obama rejects House plan
From the article: “It’s now up to the Senate Republicans to stand up.”
What a sad joke. But a good strategy by the administration. Knowing that the Senate 'leadership' is full of Democrats with an 'R' after their name ready to capitulate even more than the House.
Liberalism is just communism sold by the drink.
10-12-2013, 12:42 PM
The choice is easy, new party or no party.
Of course we can keep playing these endless games but look where this has gotten us in the last 20 years, do we want conservatives to truly have a say in government or not?A trojan horse hides its intent and Obama hasnít we hid our understanding.
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