The GOP surrenders... as usual

**Janice** · 10-12-2013, 02:01 PM

Conservative activists turn up heat on Republicans in budget fight

Conservative activists gathered at an annual political conference are calling on Republicans to embrace the Tea Party-backed refusal to support spending measures that fund ObamaCare, even as GOP lawmakers appeared to be scaling back some of their demands for ending the budget impasse.

Republican Sen. Ted Cruz and his Tea Party-aligned colleagues and high-profile activists rallied attendees Friday to keep up the fight to unravel ObamaCare at the annual the Values Voter Summit for social conservatives in Washington, D.C.

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Not everyone on the Hill has drank the Potomac tea.There are a couple a dozen patriots up there. We just need to primary the establishment elites and elect more conservatives. No one expected this to happen in just one election.

**Rockntractor** · 10-12-2013, 02:17 PM

I just heard on Fox that the jack wad and chief is rejecting the offer from the spineless Republicans, WTF does he want anyway?

**Apocalypse** · 10-12-2013, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Rockntractor

I just heard on Fox that the jack wad and chief is rejecting the offer from the spineless Republicans, WTF does he want anyway?

Obama Rejects Latest Offer, Boehner Tells Republicans

House Speaker John Boehner told fellow Republicans today that President Barack Obama rejected his latest fiscal offer, shifting the focus for a potential agreement to the Senate.
The U.S. is in the 12th day of a partial government shutdown and the country’s borrowing authority will lapse Oct. 17 if Congress doesn’t act. The latest moves make the legislative path forward uncertain, because no plans appear to have enough support yet to move through either chamber of Congress.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, said talks between the White House and House Republicans were “done” and that he expected Republicans to block an attempt today to allow a Senate vote on pushing the next debt-ceiling debate into 2015.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...ls-republicans

Simply put, obumble wants a year and a half on the debt ceiling with nothing attached, and a full years budget, blank check to any thing he wants.

Shutdown is still on, and now its more obumble's fault.

**Janice** · 10-12-2013, 03:15 PM

Yes, all the focus now will be on the Senate repubs. That means Mitch McConnell is up to bat.

So who does he put in charge of negotiations for the republican side? Why Susan Collins, thats who.

Is it even possible to find anyone who is more 'milk toast' than Susan Collins? I dont think so.

Meanwhile Mitch and his pals renew their attacks against Ted Cruz.

**Novaheart** · 10-12-2013, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Rockntractor

There is no longer a functioning conservative party, either we start a new party or forget about conservative values entirely, it is gone people. Any hope of working within the Republican part is gone.
It does not matter which side gets what in the next election both sides are just covers of the same book.

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What did you expect to happen? Universal healthcare is not going to go away. The call now should be to fix Obamacare so that a viable single payer system can be implemented and insurance companies no longer skim off the top of it.

**Rockntractor** · 10-12-2013, 06:15 PM

That last gerbil ate your brain out.

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**Apocalypse** · 10-12-2013, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Janice

Yes, all the focus now will be on the Senate repubs. That means Mitch McConnell is up to bat.

So who does he put in charge of negotiations for the republican side? Why Susan Collins, thats who.

Is it even possible to find anyone who is more 'milk toast' than Susan Collins? I dont think so.

Meanwhile Mitch and his pals renew their attacks against Ted Cruz.

I'm starting to get the feeling that Boehner tossed out that deal realizing that Senate Rep. were going to fold and it would then force the House to ether accept, or be crushed.

**Apocalypse** · 10-12-2013, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Novaheart

What did you expect to happen? Universal healthcare is not going to go away. The call now should be to fix Obamacare so that a viable single payer system can be implemented and insurance companies no longer skim off the top of it.

Is in the Netherlands. They are in the process of scrapping their Universal Healthcare and their Social Security system in favor of a ‘participation society’

**Janice** · 10-12-2013, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Novaheart

What did you expect to happen? Universal healthcare is not going to go away. The call now should be to fix Obamacare so that a viable single payer system can be implemented and insurance companies no longer skim off the top of it.

Hmm yes. Lets just scrap the free market and privacy concerns and call it a day.

Whats next? How else can we shred the Constitution and the Bill of rights?

No rush... we've still got 3 years to 'fundamentally transform' this evil country dont we?

**Novaheart** · 10-12-2013, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Janice

Hmm yes. Lets just scrap the free market and privacy concerns and call it a day.

Whats next? How else can we shred the Constitution and the Bill of rights?

No rush... we've still got 3 years to 'fundamentally transform' this evil country dont we?

There is no free-market in health care.

The education of the doctors is paid for or subsidized by the state whether at public or private institutions.

The colleges and hospitals are subsidized by the state.

Medical research is paid for or subsidized by the state.

Medical training is performed on patients who permit doctors to train on them.

The military trains and releases medical personnel.