Thread: Obamacare Thread
11-14-2013, 04:47 AM
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Churches enlisted as 'trusted partners' to sell Obamacare
'God is providing resources through the Affordable Care Act'
The Obama administration and a closely aligned partner are aggressively marketing Obamacare to American churches, many of them African-American denominations, as part of a multiimillion dollar campaign to persuade America’s uninsured to buy health insurance.
Enroll America, a Washington-based non-profit staffed in part by ex-Obama presidential campaign workers, is leading the enrollment campaign which saw just over 100,000 people “sign up” in October.
Jessica Kendall, director of outreach for Enroll America, calls the task of signing up America’s uninsured the “largest enrollment effort that has ever been done in our history.”
Her group is working with a broad coalition, including hospital associations, labor unions, advocacy groups and religious organizations, to persuade people to submit to Obamacare.
Enroll America’s “Health Care from the Pulpit” initiative to churches kicked off Sunday, Oct. 27, with “over 50 events across the country to further engage the faith community in education about enrollment,” according to a press release.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/churches-...m8JlyQQtdm9.99
11-14-2013, 04:17 PM
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Tax on upper middle class (200 K, million dollar homes) funds Obamacare.
The Affordable Care Act or Obamacare seems to be in the headlines every day because of all of the problems surrounding the launch. And while most realize the law is funded in part by the individual mandate and penalty tax, it is also being funded in ways that are not discussed as much in the media.
Luxury real estate broker Ron Aioso says there is a tax that is rarely discussed that also helps fund Obamacare. It is a tax on high-income taxpayers when they sell their homes.
Franklin Lakes, N.J. was listed on Forbes.com in 2010 as one of "America's Most Expensive ZIP Codes", with a median home price of $1.3M.
Aioso says homeowners in a neighborhood like this could really be impacted by the Obamacare tax.
“Where we are today in a luxury area, you look and you see this home behind me, somebody like this is really affected,” he said.
If you are single with an adjusted gross income of $200,000 or file jointly with an income of $250,000 or more, you may be impacted. Once you sell your home, any profits over the first $500,000 are already subject to a capital gains tax. And now those profits will have an additional 3.8% tax to fund Obamacare.
Aioso noted that there is also a lot of confusion surrounding this tax and many homeowners know little about it.
“I think more than anything we need some education on it so people fully understand what is this 3.8%? What am I paying?” Aioso said.
11-16-2013, 01:38 AM
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...The following lie was bad enough but it’s nothing compared to what is coming in January with the unleashing of Section 1311:
“If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your current health insurance plan you can keep it.”
...‘You’re not going to have anybody getting in between you and your doctor in your decision making’ is the worst lie, worse than not keeping your doctors and your hospitals.
Government will get between you and your doctor. In fact, government will control all insured, even privately insured. No one is safe. Mr. Obama knew it in 2010 when he admitted ‘some provisions violate the pledge’ and he knows it now. He has said it but he will not explain it.
The people will soon find out because, next year, Section 1311 of The Affordable Care Act kicks in and, with it, complete government control over everyone’s healthcare.
For the first time in the history of our once-free nation, the federal government will control how our doctors treat each of their privately insured patients. It won’t just be people on the exchanges or in Medicare and Medicaid.
People who keep their insurance think it won’t affect them but that is not the case.
Obamacare controls everyone’s healthcare because that is what Obamacare was always about.
Doctors will no longer make decisions based only on the patient’s best interests as in the past. Doctors will be forced to provide only the care that is approved by the government. This care will cover every treatment option, every procedure, every medicine – your joint replacements, your stints…well you get the idea.
It doesn’t matter if you pay the premiums yourself. The government controls your health!
Whether it be private health insurance or not, the government controls it all because under Obamacare you are required to be in a ‘qualified’ plan and ‘qualified’ plans can only pay doctors who do exactly what the HHS Secretary’s regulations impose. Doctors will be penalized and unable to practice if they don’t adhere. When the regulations conflict with the Hippocratic Oath, the doctor must adhere to HHS regulations over the oath.
Section 1311 (h)(1). Beginning on January 1, 2015, a qualified health plan may contract with-(B) a health care provider only if such provider implements such mechanisms to improve health care quality as the Secretary may by regulation require.
Former head of the CMS, Donald Berwick, said, ’Physician autonomy is a thing of the past,’ in “The Epitaph of Profession” in the British Journal of General Practice, 2009.
The same goes for hospitals – they will have no autonomy. They will act in complete accordance with HHS, which is controlled ONLY by the Executive Branch of government.
You will not be in charge of the doctor you see or the hospital you go to unless you are wealthy and can pay for it yourself. An Obamacare team – the ‘medical home’ – will decide.
Your primary care physician will most likely not be your primary care doctor. It will probably be a nurse or physician assistant. We can always do what Canada does and hold a lottery to see who gets to see the real doctor.
In 2010, Dr. Elaina George, a Princeton graduate and board certified Otolarynologist, warned us about Dr. Eekiel Emanuel’s Coordinating Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research, which is changing the way our government healthcare system works. It uses the complete lives system which bases the types and amounts of treatments and medicines on a person’s age. This will effect everyone’s care.
Dr. George wrote that a board created by the stimulus bill called The National Coordinator for Health Information Technology ’will determine treatment at the time and place of care’. They are charged with deciding the course of treatment for the diagnosis given by the doctor.
This makes it obvious as to why there has been a big push towards the implementation of universal electronic medical record use. It becomes a tool to completely control the physician and the patient.
Doctors who don’t comply with the government will first be fined and then, for further offenses, they will go to jail. Those physicians and hospitals that choose to practice individualized patient care in consultation with their patients will be punished because they are not “meaningful users of the system over time.”
Beginning January 1, 2013 penalties for doing the right thing for a patient will cost the doctor a hefty fine for the first offense and and eventually jail for further offenses.
Dr. George concluded: ’46% of physicians in a survey by The New England Journal of Medicine stated that they would leave the practice of medicine if Obamacare was implemented. This will only further decrease the quality of healthcare when the 30 million more people enter the system. Maybe that’s why there was a big push in the healthcare bill to increase the number of other providers such as physician assistants and nurse practitioners. There is no question that rationing will become our future. If you add 30 million more people into a system with fewer resources how could you possibly avoid rationing?’
Medicare recipients will be hit hardest under the complete lives system which allocates resources such as body parts, vaccines, and dialysis machines with preference given to those aged 15-40.
Obamacare assumes, as Dr. George says, that doctors, in consultation with their patients, do not have the ability to make the right healthcare choices so they appointed a 15-member board of bureaucrats – IPAB or Independent Payment Advisory Board – to make decisions about how doctors and hospitals under Medicare are paid while ignoring the doctor-patient relationship and the Hippocratic Oath.
Ezekiel Emanuel held the positions of health policy advisor at the Office of Management and Budget and member of the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (CER) – the CER is the rationing board – when he said the following:
“When implemented, the complete lives system produces a priority curve on which individuals aged between roughly 15 and 40 years get the most substantial chance, whereas the youngest and oldest people get chances that are attenuated.”
He explains it this way: ”Unlike allocation by sex of race, allocation by age is not invidious discrimination… Treating 65-year-olds differently because of stereotypes or falsehoods would be ageist; treating them differently because they have already had more life-years is not.”
11-16-2013, 01:40 AM
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Betsy McCaughey in an article in the New York Post on November 7th said Mr. Obama is telling yet another whopper. He claims falsely that we can expect better care in the exchanges. We are now receiving substandard care, he insists....
...Dr. McCaughey continues:
“The vast majority of exchange plans won’t allow access to many doctors and hospitals you prefer. Many plans exclude the top-drawer academic hospitals, like Cedars-Sinai in LA, the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota and New York Presbyterian here in the city.
Instead, the law requires exchange plans to cover care at “essential community providers . . . that serve predominantly low-income, medically underserved individuals” [Sec. 1311c(1)C]. That means clinics, public hospitals and hospitals largely serving the Medicaid community.
The law’s authors reasoned that exchange-plan customers should be able to shift back and forth between their plans and Medicaid, as their earnings fluctuate, without changing doctors and hospitals. That’s good for those folks — but bad news for consumers who had access to esteemed hospitals and doctors under their old plans and then got pushed into the exchanges.
Medicaid level care is, to use the president’s word, substandard. For example, a review of the experiences of nearly 900,000 patients undergoing eight different surgical procedures found that Medicaid patients were 50 percent more likely to die in the hospital after surgery than patients with private coverage. This review, by researchers at the University of Virginia, is one of several studies showing that Medicaid patients get worse care than patients with private insurance.
But many of the plans offered on the exchanges are Medicaid with a private label slapped on. The McKinsey Center for US Health System Reform reports that Medicaid insurers are playing a large role in the exchanges…”
#45 "We all knew"
11-17-2013, 07:55 PM
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Another Democrat Senator admits knowing that people would lose their insurance.
NY Dem Senator Admits: “We All Knew” Obama Was Lying
I guess that leaves everybody but the American people.
11-17-2013, 08:58 PM
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Obamacare as social engineering?
Rep. Clyburn: Obamacare Meant to Change America's 'Value System'
11-18-2013, 03:02 AM
Healthcare "reform" was never about healthcare. Just like global warming is not about saving the environment.
Both are about wealth transfer and social engineering/control.In Memory Of My Friend 1st Sgt. Tim Millsap A Co, 70th Eng. Bn. 3rd Bde 1st AD...K.I.A. 25 April 2005
Liberalism Is The Philosophy Of The Stupid
To Achieve Ordered Liberty You Must Have Moral Order As Well
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.
11-18-2013, 03:37 PM
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Obama’s ‘5 Percent’ Con Job
It’s a 100 percent lie, according to the White House’s own figures.
....According to Obama, these individual-market consumers whose policies are being canceled make up only 5 percent of all health-insurance consumers.
Even this 5 percent figure is a deception. As Avik Roy points out, the individual market actually accounts for 8 percent of health-insurance consumers. Obama can’t help himself: He even minimizes his minimizations. So, if Obama were telling the truth in rationalizing that his broken promises affect only consumers in the individual-insurance market, we’d still be talking about up to 25 million Americans. While the president shrugs these victims off, 25 million exceeds the number of Americans who do not have health insurance because of poverty or preexisting conditions (as opposed to those who could, but choose not to, purchase insurance). Of course, far from cavalierly shrugging off that smaller number of people, Obama and Democrats used them to justify nationalizing a sixth of the U.S. economy.
But that’s not the half of it. Obama’s claim that unwelcome cancellations are confined to the individual-insurance market is another brazen lie. In the weekend column, I link to the excellent work of Powerline’s John Hinderaker, who has demonstrated that, for over three years, the Obama administration’s internal estimates have shown that most Americans who are covered by “employer plans” will also lose their coverage under Obamacare. Mind you, 156 million Americans get health coverage through their jobs.
John cites the Federal Register, dated June 17, 2010, beginning at page 34,552 (Vol. 75, No. 116). It includes a chart that outlines the Obama administration’s projections. The chart indicates that somewhere between 39 and 69 percent of employer plans would lose their “grandfather” protection by 2013. In fact, for small-business employers, the high-end estimate is a staggering 80 percent (and even on the low end, it’s just a shade under half — 49 percent).
That is to say: During all these years, while Obama was repeatedly assuring Americans, “If you like your health-insurance plan, you can keep your health-insurance plan,” he actually expected as many as seven out of every ten Americans covered by employer plans to lose their coverage. For small business, he expected at least one out of every two Americans, or as many as four out of every five, to lose their coverage...
More at the link.
11-18-2013, 03:40 PM
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...My friends at the American Freedom Law Center (on whose advisory board I sit) are representing Priests for Life, a group aggrieved by Obamacare’s denial of religious liberty — specifically, the ACA’s mandate that believers, despite their faith-based objections, provide their employees with coverage for the use of abortifacients and contraceptives. On October 17, the Obama Department of Health and Human Services, represented by the Obama Justice Department, submitted a brief to the federal district court in Washington, opposing Priests for Life’s summary judgment motion. On page 27 of its brief, the Justice Department makes the following remarkable assertion:
The [ACA’s] grandfathering provision’s incremental transition does not undermine the government’s interests in a significant way. [Citing, among other sources, the Federal Register.] Even under the grandfathering provision, it is projected that more group health plans will transition to the requirements under the regulations as time goes on. Defendants have estimated that a majority of group health plans will have lost their grandfather status by the end of 2013.
HHS and the Justice Department cite the same section of the Federal Register referred to by John Hinderaker, as well as an annual survey on “Employer Health Benefits” compiled by the Kaiser Family Foundation in 2012.
So, while the president has been telling us that, under the vaunted grandfathering provision, all Americans who like their health-insurance plans will be able to keep them, “period,” his administration has been representing in federal court that most health plans would lose their “grandfather status” by the end of this year. Not just the “5 percent” of individual-market consumers, but close to all consumers — including well over 100 million American workers who get coverage through their jobs — have been expected by the president swiftly to “transition to the requirements under the [Obamacare] regulations.” That is, their health-insurance plans would be eliminated. They would be forced into Obamacare-compliant plans, with all the prohibitive price hikes and coercive mandates that “transition” portends.
Obamacare is a massive fraudulent scheme. A criminal investigation should be opened. Obviously, the Obama Justice Department will not do that, but the House of Representatives should commence hearings into the offenses that have been committed in the president’s deception of the American people.
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