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    Obamacare confusion reigns as frustrated patients walk out of hospitals without treatment

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    MailOnline spoke with patients who were told they would have to pay their bills in full if they couldn't prove they had insurance
    One was faced with a $3,000 hospital room charge and opted to leave the hospital after experiencing chest pains
    'Should I be in the hospital? Probably,' she said
    Another, coughing in the cold, walked out without receiving a needed chest x-ray
    Consumers face sticker-shock from medical costs under the new Obamacare system, made worse if they can't prove they're insured
    As many as one-third of new enrollees' applications have seen problems when the government transmits them to insurance companies
    Hospital staff in Northern Virginia are turning away sick people on a frigid Thursday morning because they can't determine whether their Obamacare insurance plans are in effect.

    Patients in a close-in DC suburb who think they've signed up for new insurance plans are struggling to show their December enrollments are in force, and health care administrators aren't taking their word for it.

    In place of quick service and painless billing, these Virginians are now facing the threat of sticker-shock that comes with bills they can't afford.

    'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!' a coughing Maria Galvez told MailOnline outside the Inova Healthplex facility in the town of Springfield.

    She was leaving the building without getting a needed chest x-ray.

    'The people in there told me that since I didn't have an insurance card, I would be billed for the whole cost of the x-ray,' Galvez said, her young daughter in tow. 'It's not fair – you know, I signed up last week like I was supposed to.'

    The x-ray's cost, she was told, would likely be more than $500.

    Galvez said she enrolled in a Carefirst Blue Cross bronze plan at a cost of about $450 per month through healthcare.gov, three days before Christmas.

    'No one has sent me a bill,' she said.

    Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius testified in a December 11 congressional hearing that the federal government can't say how many new enrollees have written checks for their first month's premiums.

    'Some may have paid, some may have not,' she conceded.

    It's unlikely that a valid insurance card would have changed Galvez' fortunes, however.


    Her Carefirst plan, identified on the Obamacare website as BlueChoice Plus Bronze, carries a $5,500 per-person deductible for 2014 – an amount she would have to pay out-of-pocket before her coverage would apply to medical expenses.

    The Inova radiology department wouldn't speak with MailOnline, and Carefirst did not respond to a request for comment.

    A similar situation frustrated Mary, an African-American woman small businesswoman who asked MailOnline not to publish her last name. She was leaving the Inova Alexandria Hospital in Alexandria, Virginia with two family members.

    'I had chest pains last night, and they took me in the emergency room,' Mary said. 'They told me they were going to admit me, but when I told them I hadn't heard from my insurance company since I signed up, they changed their tune.'

    She told MailOnline that a nurse advised her that her bill would go up by at least $3,000 if she were admitted for a day, and her doctor told her the decision was up to her.

    'Should I be in the hospital? Probably,' she said. 'Maybe it's one of those borderline cases. I have to think that if I were really in danger, they wouldn't give me the choice. But what if I think I'm covered and I'm really not?'

    'The emergency room bill is going to be bad enough.'

    The Obamacare system has suffered from a long list of setbacks since its October 1 rollout, starting with an inoperable website and ending with rampant uncertainty about whether Americans who enrolled are actually covered.

    "We're telling consumers if they're not sure if they're enrolled they should call the insurer directly," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney old reporters on December 2.

    The Washington Post reported that day that because of computer glitches in the 'back end' of healthcare.gov, enrollment records for as many as one-third of new insurance customers were corrupted or otherwise contain errors.

    Given the Obama administration's latest claim that 2.1 million have signed up nationwide, that means as many as 700,000 Americans might falsely believe they have a current health insurance policy.

    Mary and others like her, who took the time to enroll but may not follow the daily flood of news about Obamacare, likely don't know one way or the other.

    'Why is this so complicated?' she asked. 'I had my own private insurance last year, but they cancelled me in November. I'm not sure which end is up.'

    Private industry estimates put the number of policy cancellations as high as 4.7 million in the last quarter of 2013, mostly involving health care plans that didn't meet the Affordable Care Act's strict minimum standards.

    Democrats serving on the House Committee on Energy and Commerce dispute that number, saying in a new report that no more than 10,000 will wind up without affordable insurance options after losing their old policies.

    President Obama has attracted widespread criticism, and a 'lie of the year' award from one newspaper's fact-checker, for promising that Americans who liked their health plans would be allowed to keep them.

    Dr. John Venetos, a Chicago gastroenterologist, told the Associated Press on Thursday that he is seeing 'tremendous uncertainty and anxiety' among his patients who signed up for Obamacare plans but don't have insurance cards.

    'They’re not sure if they have coverage,' Venetos said. 'It puts the heavy work on the physician.'

    'At some point, every practice is going to make a decision about how long can they continue to see these patients for free if they are not getting paid.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Obamacare confusion reigns as frustrated patients walk out of hospitals without treatment
    This is very upsetting. I hope President Obama is happy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    This is very upsetting. I hope President Obama is happy.
    The sad thing is that these are people who did the "right" thing and signed up for insurance when they were told to do so. The elderly woman from Alexandria actually had her own insurance until November when it got canceled. She dutifully signed up for Obamacare. The tragedy is that had this woman had her chest pains at Halloween instead of Christmas, her insurance would have covered her $3000 hospital stay.

    Obamacare is NOT about healthcare. That much is becoming very clear.
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    If you question ObamaCare you are a Racist!!!

    Remember that as they carry you away...
    May the FORCE be with you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaRepub View Post
    If you question ObamaCare you are a Racist!!!

    Remember that as they carry you away...
    The two women in the article who couldn't get hospital services were black and Hispanic. Shows you how much Obama cares about minorities.
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    Ron Johnson to Sue Over Federal Health-Insurance Compensation for Lawmakers and Aides
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    Senator Ron Johnson (R., Wis.) has decided to sue the Obama administration, claiming that members of Congress and their staff are granted special treatment under Obamacare because of the federal support they receive to buy health insurance, the Hill reports. Johnson had previously taken steps to sue the Obama administration over this matter, having filed a formal complaint to the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) in September.

    However, the OPM said that the federal government would continue to provide subsidies to lawmakers and their aides, as similar help is provided to other federal employees, who purchase health plans offered by the Federal Employee Health Benefits Plan. Johnson thinks this extension of insurance subsidies to lawmakers and their aides breaks the law.

    “The American people have an expectation – Wisconsinites have an expectation — that members of Congress should be subjected to the letter of the law just like they’re held to the letter of the law,” Johnson told the Oshkosh Northwestern. “In this case, members of Congress now are not being held to the letter of the law, and that creates an alienation; it creates a wedge between a member of Congress and their constituents.”
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    Now Minnesota's version MNSure is in the crapper too. Today they all meet to point fingers at the State Capital. The tax payers should be allowed in to ask questions too.

    http://www.startribune.com/business/239320381.html

    Another firm is being brought in to look things over. This initial review will be free, but they may be hired to fix it if they find something. Anyone want to bet that they do?
    Liberals are proof that evolution is only a theory. Nothing that stupid could evolve past a monkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jediab View Post
    Now Minnesota's version MNSure is in the crapper too. Today they all meet to point fingers at the State Capital. The tax payers should be allowed in to ask questions too.

    http://www.startribune.com/business/239320381.html

    Another firm is being brought in to look things over. This initial review will be free, but they may be hired to fix it if they find something. Anyone want to bet that they do?
    The cost to taxpayers when all is said and done will be more than astronomic.
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    Glitch-A-Rama Continues: Insurance Companies Have No Record of Some People Who Signed Up For Obamacare…
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    Record-keeping snags could complicate the start of insurance coverage this month as people begin using policies they purchased under President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul.

    Insurance companies are still trying to sort out cases of so-called health insurance orphans, customers for whom the government has a record that they enrolled, but the insurer does not.

    Government officials say the problem is real but under control, with orphan records being among the roughly 13,000 problem cases they are trying to resolve with insurers. But insurance companies are worried the process will grow more cumbersome as they deal with the flood of new customers who signed up in December as enrollment deadlines neared.

    More than 1 million people have signed up through the federal insurance market that serves 36 states. Officials contend the error rate for new signups is close to zero.

    Insurers, however, are less enthusiastic about the pace of the fixes. The companies also are seeing cases in which the government has assigned the same identification number to more than one person, as well as so-called “ghost” files in which the insurer has an enrollment record but the government does not.

    But orphaned files — when the insurer has no record of enrollment — are particularly concerning because the companies have no automated way to identify the presumed policyholder. They say they have to manually compare the lists of enrollees the government sends them with their own records because the government never built an automated system that would do the work much faster.


    “It’s an ongoing concern,” said Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for the industry trade group America’s Health Insurance Plans. “Health plans can’t process enrollments they haven’t received from the exchange.”
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    Democrats blame big business for botched rollout
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    Democrats taking heat back home for Obamacare’s rocky online rollout say don’t blame them — blame Big Business.

    Facing an onslaught of constituent frustration over problems with online exchanges, several Democrats have started pointing fingers at the companies and senior executives in their home states that have contracts to get the health care websites up and running.

    Democrats have made a version of the argument in Washington in recent months, defending the health care law not only from Republican attacks that it’s a failure — but from the line that government itself can’t do big things.

    Now that rhetoric — blame the contractors — is hitting local events.

    Case in point: Sen. Jeff Merkley.

    The Oregon Democrat called out software developer Oracle and its president and Chief Financial Officer Safra Catz by name in town hall meetings and to local media over the Christmas recess. He said they’re responsible for the state’s “Cover Oregon” website problems.


    “We have a horrendous state software glitch,” Merkley said at a town hall in the Portland area. He also told constituents that Catz took full responsibility for the problems in a conversation he had with her.

    “I called the president of Oracle. Her name is Safra Catz. She wouldn’t even let me talk for 10 minutes; she just apologized saying they’ve never had a failure like they’ve had for Oregon,” Merkley told local CBS affiliate KOIN...
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