Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 27

Hybrid View

  1. #1 Family Stranded In Chicago After Airline Says Man Is Too Big To Fit On Plane November 
    PORCUS MAXIMUS Rockntractor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    oklahoma
    Posts
    42,620
    (CBS) — They came to the United States for medical treatment for their son, but a French family is now stranded in Chicago because the airline that brought them here won’t take them back.
    CBS 2′s Derrick Blakley has the story of this foreign family’s travel troubles.
    22-year-old Kevin Chenais weighs 500 pounds and spent a year-and-a-half at the Mayo Clinic for treatment of a hormone disorder.
    He was supposed to fly home to France on British Airways, but for seven days, he and his family have been stranded in Chicago.

    “We blame British Airways because now they just leave us, and they brought us here,” said Christina Chenais, Kevin’s mother.
    When it was time to go back, British Airways essentially decided, Kevin was too large to fit on board.
    “If they could bring him here with that problem in economy, there was a way to take him back by economy but just get him back home for his medical treatments to continue,” said Christina Chenais.
    In a statement, a British Airways spokesperson said: “Our customer service team worked diligently to find a solution…Unfortunately, it is not possible to safely accommodate the customer on any of our aircraft…”
    Kevin requires round-the-clock oxygen and full time medical attention.
    “I’m sure a lot of big people like or bigger cannot travel because they have the same problem,” said Kevin Chenais.
    They are now out of cash and marooned at an airport hotel and the family now plans to travel by train to New York and board the Queen Mary II to England, all taking time and money they can’t afford.
    Kevin’s parents insist British Airways was informed about Kevin’s size and medical needs before they bought their tickets.
    British Airways won’t comment specifically on that, only saying the needs of individual customers must be addressed on a case-by-case basis.
    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/11/...-fit-on-plane/

    Use liposuction, render the fat, convert to biofuel, give fuel to airline and fly home.

    This sounds like the seefood gene to me.
    The difference between pigs and people is that when they tell you you're cured it isn't a good thing.
    http://i.imgur.com/FHvkMSE.jpg
    Reply With Quote  
     

  2. #2  
    Sonnabend
    Guest
    Rock: ever see someone with a pituitary disorder? Or one with thyroid deficiencies or disorders? There are ways for people to eat like a sparrow and weigh 300 kilos or more. Hormone disorders can do horrific things to a body, as the hormones go nuts sending the body's systems the wrong messages.

    I understand your comment, but in all truth, it isnt the case.

    Pituitary hormones control growth and when they get out of control...heres an example

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ert_Wadlow.jpg

    Andre the Giant was another..brain tumours can cause people to balloon out as well. It does happen.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  3. #3  
    PORCUS MAXIMUS Rockntractor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    oklahoma
    Posts
    42,620
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    Rock: ever see someone with a pituitary disorder? Or one with thyroid deficiencies or disorders? There are ways for people to eat like a sparrow and weigh 300 kilos or more. Hormone disorders can do horrific things to a body, as the hormones go nuts sending the body's systems the wrong messages.

    I understand your comment, but in all truth, it isnt the case.

    Pituitary hormones control growth and when they get out of control...heres an example

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ert_Wadlow.jpg

    Andre the Giant was another..brain tumours can cause people to balloon out as well. It does happen.
    500 pounds? It came from something and it wasn't air. I have to be careful how much I eat because my system wastes nothing, I have a feeling this guy does not eat like a sparrow, there are laws of physics to take into consideration also.
    He may very well have some hormone problems but this is our way with everything here now, nothing is a choice, it never is your own fault.

    I have the mean gene and am not responsible for anything I typed (except stuff people like of course).
    The difference between pigs and people is that when they tell you you're cured it isn't a good thing.
    http://i.imgur.com/FHvkMSE.jpg
    Reply With Quote  
     

  4. #4  
    Senior Ape Articulate_Ape's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    NJ, Exit Only
    Posts
    8,006
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    500 pounds? It came from something and it wasn't air. I have to be careful how much I eat because my system wastes nothing, I have a feeling this guy does not eat like a sparrow, there are laws of physics to take into consideration also.
    He may very well have some hormone problems but this is our way with everything here now, nothing is a choice, it never is your own fault.

    I have the mean gene and am not responsible for anything I typed (except stuff people like of course).
    I agree. Something has to get converted into calories for the body to process, whether normally or not. There has to be a correlation between the volume of food consumed and said calories being converted to fat by whatever means.
    "The efforts of the government alone will never be enough. In the end the people must choose and the people must help themselves" ~ JFK; from his famous inauguration speech (What Democrats sounded like before today's neo-Liberals hijacked that party)
    Reply With Quote  
     

  5. #5  
    Fabulous Poster
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    10,161
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I have a feeling this guy does not eat like a sparrow,
    Since we're dealing with an undefined quantity it's difficult to say whether he does or doesn't. As a rule, a person must consume 10 calories per pound of body weight to maintain his weight. That presumes a normal amount of physical exertion in the course of a day. When you throw in a medical disorder and the eventual cessation of activity then pretty much normal food consumption will indeed maintain the extreme weight. That's when you need to go on a medifast VLC (very low calorie) diet to induce rapid weight loss to make physical effort possible. The problem is that ALL drastic weight reduction methods can cause medical complications because you are inducing malnutrition.

    I think there is something else going on here. He doesn't look immobile and yet he uses the scooter. Being on oxygen is rather unusual for a 22 year old of any weight, and again, 500 lbs isn't really the limit of the human body. There are extremely fat people easily observed at Walmart on any given night. I see a handful of them using the electric shopping cart and I want to gently tell them "If you don't get out of that scooter you probably won't be able to someday."

    When I wanted to lose weight, I started by walking around the block, then two blocks, and before long I was walking around the town. Then I pulled my bike out of the garage and did the same thing: two miles, four miles, ten miles, the next thing you know I bought a better bike and I was riding to Clearwater and back. Of course, if you really aren't well enough to walk one block, then it's really hard to get started but I learned in hospitals in my teens that recovery starts by walking from one end of the hall to the other and back.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  6. #6  
    PORCUS MAXIMUS Rockntractor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    oklahoma
    Posts
    42,620
    Had this person been a peasant born a couple hundred or more years ago he would be very fortunate having a digestive system with such high efficiency that he could eat less than others and yet store away fat, some one that could eat all day and not gain weight would starve,if you choose to fight the system you were born with and not deal with it's strong and weak points appropriately you can expect to have difficulties?

    If you had two vehicles one a Geo Metro and the other a Chevy 3/4 ton with a 454, would you attempt to put the same amount of fuel in each assuming they were both going the same distance everyday, would you keep adding tanks to the Geo to hold the excess fuel until it got so heavy you couldn't drive it and had to load it on a trailer and haul it behind the Chevy? Soon you would have to leave it in one spot and use the chevy to haul fuel to it because it could not be moved, all the while the Geo is whining because it doesn't use any more fuel than the chevy.
    it isn't the end of the world to be over weight but at some point you have far overcome the pleasure with the pain and inconvenience you cause yourself and others, 500 pounds, cut back the fuel in the tank, drive more miles and find a tolerable level, crap I just don't buy this and I have heard the story many times.
    I have had to fight to keep my weight down since I quite smoking 25 years ago,my digestive system is extremely efficient, I know too well what it is like and I love food perhaps more than most , cutting your intake will result in losing weight it is physics.
    The difference between pigs and people is that when they tell you you're cured it isn't a good thing.
    http://i.imgur.com/FHvkMSE.jpg
    Reply With Quote  
     

  7. #7  
    Fabulous Poster
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    10,161
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I have had to fight to keep my weight down since I quite smoking 25 years ago,my digestive system is extremely efficient, I know too well what it is like and I love food perhaps more than most , cutting your intake will result in losing weight it is physics.
    To be clear, I am not making excuses for how he got this way. I am speaking of how he is now and the challenge faced by him. I have long said that we need to treat obesity like a medical disorder, from the beginning, and not like some kind of self indulgence even if you see it as self indulgence. Clearly there is some unknown factor which makes some people more prone to weight gain than others.

    I don't think naturally thin people make a conscious decision to control their food intake. I have never met one who does. I do know some people who play with 20 or 30 pounds, but generally excess weight accumulates on them due to some change in routine.

    I'll tell you what I think would help a lot: if middle and high schools had physical education that was actually education and not something coaches reluctantly do in the school day to have fun with the jocks while ignoring the needs of the kids that actually need fitness training but who dread phys ed because it's just a way to mock them and drag down their grade point average. I'd like to see phys ed be ungraded and the fat kids in nutrition classes and motivation platoon during phys ed periods and after school.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  8. #8  
    Sin City Moderator RobJohnson's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Nevada
    Posts
    17,624
    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    Since we're dealing with an undefined quantity it's difficult to say whether he does or doesn't. As a rule, a person must consume 10 calories per pound of body weight to maintain his weight. That presumes a normal amount of physical exertion in the course of a day. When you throw in a medical disorder and the eventual cessation of activity then pretty much normal food consumption will indeed maintain the extreme weight. That's when you need to go on a medifast VLC (very low calorie) diet to induce rapid weight loss to make physical effort possible. The problem is that ALL drastic weight reduction methods can cause medical complications because you are inducing malnutrition.

    I think there is something else going on here. He doesn't look immobile and yet he uses the scooter. Being on oxygen is rather unusual for a 22 year old of any weight, and again, 500 lbs isn't really the limit of the human body. There are extremely fat people easily observed at Walmart on any given night. I see a handful of them using the electric shopping cart and I want to gently tell them "If you don't get out of that scooter you probably won't be able to someday."

    When I wanted to lose weight, I started by walking around the block, then two blocks, and before long I was walking around the town. Then I pulled my bike out of the garage and did the same thing: two miles, four miles, ten miles, the next thing you know I bought a better bike and I was riding to Clearwater and back. Of course, if you really aren't well enough to walk one block, then it's really hard to get started but I learned in hospitals in my teens that recovery starts by walking from one end of the hall to the other and back.

    I think some of the shoppers simply use the scooters because they are there to use. I notice that at many of the smaller stores that do not have scooters the same customers get around fine without one. I know there are several exceptions to this. For instance if a person just had surgery and they are at Super Wal Mart needing items at both ends of the store, I understand why they need to use the scooter.

    Some of the people using those scooters are rude assholes. They don't care if they run you over and expect you to jump out of their way when they come down an aisle. I think that fits in with the entitlement mentality.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  9. #9  
    Fabulous Poster
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    10,161
    Quote Originally Posted by RobJohnson View Post
    I think some of the shoppers simply use the scooters because they are there to use. I notice that at many of the smaller stores that do not have scooters the same customers get around fine without one. I know there are several exceptions to this. For instance if a person just had surgery and they are at Super Wal Mart needing items at both ends of the store, I understand why they need to use the scooter.

    Some of the people using those scooters are rude assholes. They don't care if they run you over and expect you to jump out of their way when they come down an aisle. I think that fits in with the entitlement mentality.
    That's true. I have used the scooter twice, both times due to a problem with my ankle and the fact that the Wizard of Walmart loves to make you go all over the store for stuff. It's irritating even when you are healthy to have to truck to the end of the universe to get toothpaste because Walmart decided you should have to walk through clothes, housewares, hardware, and electronics to get to the bathroom stuff.
    Reply With Quote  
     

  10. #10  
    Power CUer NJCardFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Posts
    16,491
    Lost in all of this: Britain, a country who's healthcare system is so great, one of their citizens has to come here to get treated.
    The Obama Administration: Deny. Deflect. Blame.
    Reply With Quote  
     

Bookmarks
Bookmarks
Posting Permissions
  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •