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11-10-2013, 10:27 PM
Your statement are a tad broad. Major corporations "domestic partner" insurance has sometimes been defined by those who aren't eligible to be married, but more often it's not even referred to as DP Benefits rather "employee plus one". Eligible would be any employee plus a domestic partner of either sex, or the employee and a child. It's an increment between individual and family.
There is a lag right now between policy and law where gay marriage has been legalized. This only makes sense when you consider that in California it was legal and then it wasn't and then it was. But the trend in places with legal marriage is to do away with DP in favor of married couples now that marriage isn't discriminatory.
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11-10-2013, 10:31 PM
"Find" is the present tense. European and Arab is very broad. Your comment focusses on a single extreme historical event, an event predated by mass Jewish migration from European nations for economic reasons witch are largely inseparable from general anti-semitism in the various countries and cultures.
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11-10-2013, 10:34 PM
Gays will get bored soon with gay marriage, most that I have known have no interest in a steady monogamous relation ship, most will screw anything that will bend over for them.
I do know a handful (or should I say fist full) of lesbians with hysterectomies that no longer care about sex that have some interest in marriage. Gays are just attention whores.Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness;
Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes
And clever in their own sight! Isaiah 5:20-21 NASB
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11-11-2013, 12:36 AM
It has long been said that the quest for marriage was a misguided attempt to emulate heterosexuals. If gay marriage durations are similar to that of heterosexuals, then one would be inclined to agree.
You have basically just described men, not gay men or heterosexual men, but men. Men are pigs. Those that aren't tend to either be ugly, beyond mechanical limits, or under some sort of supervision.
Who cares?
You just can't conceal fabulous.
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11-11-2013, 01:15 PM
Lag means that the accommodation for gay people in the absence of legal equality is still in place and equality takes hold. Most of these large corporations with Domestic Partner benefits also do business in states which don't yet have legal same sex marriage. You can't have a situation where if Jack works for Chase in New York he has health insurance but if he gets promoted and moves to an operation center in Kansas he would lose benefits both for him and his domestic partner.
Moreover, Domestic Partner benefits and Marriage benefits are not equal and never have been. Domestic Partner benefits are taxable income whereas marriage benefits are not. Domestic Partner benefits also typically come with more stringent qualifications than Marriage benefits; you actually have to demonstrate a level of commitment (often evidence of cohabitation and financial co-obligation) whereas a heterosexual could marry a waitress in Las Vegas and get immediate coverage.
Have some worms.
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11-11-2013, 02:14 PM
Your lack of reading comprehension is astonishing. I didn't say that there was no antisemitism in America, I said that it was never official policy. The things that you're citing are private activities. The restrictive covenants, for example were private contracts. America never had the kind of institutional, legally enforced antisemitism that was common in Europe, where pogroms against Jews were common. That doesn't mean that there isn't antisemitism in America, in fact, it's been on the rise for the past few years, precisely because of the left's obsession with promoting Islamic insurgencies and undermining western values and morals. In fact, you're more likely to be harassed by antisemites in the University system in California than you are in any federal agency. Occupy Wall Street was virulently antisemitic.
iYes, antisemitic graffiti is a bad thing. That doesn't make it officially sanctioned.
Canada isn't part of the United States. You may want to brush up on your geography.
Yeah, and? Nixon's personal opinions aside, he never imposed antisemitic policies or laws. When push came to shove, Nixon ensured the survival of Israel during the Yom Kippur War, and he appointed the first Jewish Secretary of State.
Yes, we've established that there were individuals and communities that engaged in private contractual agreements which were discriminatory. But the laws didn't restrict the sale, the contract did, and the through the simple expedient of excising the covenants in subsequent contracts, they were eliminated. No legal action required.
Again, we're talking about private clubs, not state-enforced segregation by religion. Your feigned inability to distinguish between actions taken by individuals and private groups and the state is meant to advance a false equivalence between Jews and gays, but I'm actually making your case for you by pointing out that Jews in America were not subjected to the legal sanctions that gays were, but that also undermines your attempts at creating a false equivalence between Jews and gays in anti discrimination laws. In America, it has always been legal for Jews to marry each other, so long as the marriage was between a man and a woman (i.e., a marriage). Gays were also permitted to engage in marriage with the opposite sex. It's only the redefinition of marriage in order to accommodate a minute group of activists that makes this an issue. The only similarity between Jews and gays is the percentage of the population. Jews didn't demand that America turn itself inside out in order to accommodate our religion, we accommodated ourselves to America. We understood that as the minority, we couldn't force the majority to conform to our standards, nor should we want to. That majority welcomed us and gave us sanctuary and treated us as equals before the law. If individuals failed to do that, it wasn't the duty of the nation to impose thought crimes on them, it was the duty of Jews to thrive in spite of it, and we did. Don't use us as an excuse to justify your whining.
Actually, his comment is relevant. My point is that discrimination against Jews in America was never a matter of legal discrimination, but of private actions. The examples that you cited were private activities, not state-imposed ones. Please don't distort my arguments in order to try to cover the flaws in yours.
This is an example of using previous attacks on marriage to undermine it further. The advent of no-fault divorce made marriages disposable. The creation of disposable marriages was always a goal of the left, which sought to break up families because they were a bulwark against the power of the state. Now, you've further eroded marriage by redefining it to the point where it no longer has any meaning. This next round will result in gay marriage statistics being added to the overall mix, which will now show increasingly rapid familial disintegration, shorter duration of marriages, more dysfunction, and, of course, more calls to redefine marriage to include even more extreme modes, including polygamy.
Yes, but heterosexual men are limited in our excesses by women, whose lack of tolerance for our piggishness forces us to behave. Gay men are not limited by women, and therefore the failings of male sexuality are magnified among gay males. Gay males are far more promiscuous than straight males. Rates of sexually transmitted disease have always been much higher among gay men than among straights.
Not you, apparently, but then, the solidarity between lesbians and gay men was always a marriage of convenience.
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