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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    But, you know, children don't ever get bored with their parents being married and stable under most conditions.
    All, of my friends in my high school clique had both of their biological (as far as we knew) parents still married and in house. Out of the six guys and two girls I am referring to, only my own parents had a relationship I could say that I considered a marriage. The others continued to live together, perhaps even socialize together, but were not what I would call happily married.

    J's mother was an alcoholic who lived for holidays and football games and other excuses to drink in the daytime. Dad busied himself keeping an English sportscar on the road and a sailboat from sinking.

    D's parents had separate bedrooms from when I met him in 8th grade. His mother was a dream killer and his father was an entrepreneur.

    R's dad was the cliche stone cold Army colonel and his mother the neurotic 1950's housewife. After he died (ten years after we graduated) , she turned out to be a rather fun and interesting person and married J's father when the wife died of liver failure.

    E's dad was a military doctor and her mother was a cliche officer's wife, right down to throwing her weight around on base. I never saw anything remotely affectionate or even caring between the two of them. He had his job and she had hers.

    Jn's parents were closer to happily married than the others. His dad was a somewhat disagreeable but amusing city bus driver and his mother did something which made real money. They were Polish, and seemed to enjoy life somewhat.

    Jl's parents were all show. Her father was a self proclaimed intellectual and author of military history textbooks. He wore banlon socks and crossed his legs like a woman.

    The point is that all of these people had nice homes and the appearance of enduring marriages. What they actually had would fall under a variety of definitions which don't necessarily equate to marriage in my book but no one asked me for my approval. Get it? Didn't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    But, you know, children don't ever get bored with their parents being married and stable under most conditions.
    I have no doubt that many kids get bored with stable parental relationships from time to time, but the alternative to the boredom of stability is the terror of chaos. Kids who might have been bored by stable parenting certainly aren't bored with increased poverty rates and rates of abuse, decreased school performance and wasted lives that result from sexually chaotic relationships that masquerade as families, they are terrorized by them. The results of leftist social engineering are anything but dull. As Tolstoy said, "All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way."
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    Hey nova answer me this, if you get queer marriage legalized would you then champion the cause of incestual marriage? That goes for all you libs here as well, will you be a bigot or will you make fight for my right to marry my possible future daughter because we LOVE each other, oh and don't bring up sex BECAUSE STAY OUT OF MY BEDROOM!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseus View Post
    I have no doubt that many kids get bored with stable parental relationships from time to time, but the alternative to the boredom of stability is the terror of chaos. Kids who might have been bored by stable parenting certainly aren't bored with increased poverty rates and rates of abuse, decreased school performance and wasted lives that result from sexually chaotic relationships that masquerade as families, they are terrorized by them. The results of leftist social engineering are anything but dull. As Tolstoy said, "All happy families are alike; each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way."
    That was the point of my quip, Ody. Thanks for getting it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wibbins View Post
    Hey nova answer me this, if you get queer marriage legalized would you then champion the cause of incestual marriage? That goes for all you libs here as well, will you be a bigot or will you make fight for my right to marry my possible future daughter because we LOVE each other, oh and don't bring up sex BECAUSE STAY OUT OF MY BEDROOM!!!!!!!
    If you want to legalize incest (depending upon which definition you use for it) then you are free to petition the government or sue in the courts. Scotland has some of the more interesting incest laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novaheart View Post
    If you want to legalize incest (depending upon which definition you use for it) then you are free to petition the government or sue in the courts. Scotland has some of the more interesting incest laws.
    You know better than this silly answer, Nova.
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