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    Can someone explain to me how you can read this quote (which is an absolute truth) and not be a political nihilist?

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president.” -
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    There is always the chance of a transformative, superseding event restarting the growth cycle of a nation that has peaked and started into decline. That is even the positive part of the vision of the green energy crowd, though I personally think they're delusional as far as that working in the current global economic environment.

    As the writer intimates, we may well have reached the tipping point foretold by so many writers on civilization and political theory, where popular democracy takes the country in a negative direction out of the triumph of individual self-interest over shared values and national unity. Some superseding and unifying event may yet jumpstart us onto another ascending leg of the growth-decline cycle, but it will likely be something bad for a large part of us, and whatever good comes from it will likely be after the older of us are all gone. It's an appropriate time to look to one's own long-term self-reliance.
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    You've captured my very thoughts quite accurately and concisely Tanker, yet only to confirm my growing sense of nihilism. The founding fathers, in a theological sense, believed in "providence" as witnessed in it's numerous references, but it's becoming an increasing stretch of faith for me as it would seem that more than a heavenly intervention will be required to reverse the downward spiral we find our republic in. That said, the transformation you mention would seem only possible as a result of cataclysmic events (most being avoidable ) and the thought that the concepts of liberty and freedom in an enlightened society would become so devalued as to allow the most precious of blessings to vanish, and thus require us to follow the phoenix, is disconcerting beyond my comprehension. Even with the rapidly growing sense of outrage among patriots, the winds of favorable change seem so inconsequential as to leave our course on the current path of self destruction unaltered.

    Our founding was indeed based on self reliance to sustain us through our challenges, but is it not selfish to concentrate on one's own comfort and security in the waning years of our lives, while fully recognizing the impending doom that hovers over our grandchildren? Have we forgotten the words of Nathan Hale?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood 4ust View Post
    Can someone explain to me how you can read this quote (which is an absolute truth) and not be a political nihilist?

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president.” -
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    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools, such as those who made him their president.” -
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    CB, I have no idea who Sherwood was quoting, nor do I have the time to look it up ... but IMO, you'd have to have a very low IQ ... to NOT agree with this premise, 100%.

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    "The danger to America is not Barack Obama, but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the presidency. It will be easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to an electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails us. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The republic can survive a Barack Obama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president." -- Author Unknown
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    I received the quote some time back in an email and it was attributed to a newspaper article from the Czech Republic Observer. As has been stated, regardless to it's origin, it speaks incontrovertible truth. (IMO)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherwood 4ust View Post
    I received the quote some time back in an email and it was attributed to a newspaper article from the Czech Republic Observer. As has been stated, regardless to it's origin, it speaks incontrovertible truth. (IMO)
    Some of the most staunch freedom lovers come from former Soviet satellite countries and from Russia itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marv View Post
    Thanks for that....

    Hey Marv .... good to see you're still posting.........(PM'd you earlier)

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    "Some of the most staunch freedom lovers come from former Soviet satellite countries and from Russia itself"


    I agree. Oleg Atbashian (Red Square) founder of the Peoplescube website is a perfect example. A former graphic artist for the Soviet communist party, his satirical insights are a welcome break from the outrage industry. His book "Shakedown Socialism" is a great read.
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