#1 Nice Little Prison Factoid I Found Out Today02-25-2014, 03:07 AM
Every year we receive some kind of training and today I had my yearly blood born pathogen training dealing with the different diseases inmates come in with or contract while here. Found out that inmates with hepatitis or HIV are getting treatments that cost about $80K per inmate. They pay nothing. However, if you're not a prison scumbag, you have to find a way to pay for this either through cash or insurance which would be a fortune. If this makes sense to someone, can you please explain it to me?The Obama Administration: Deny. Deflect. Blame.
02-25-2014, 10:04 AM
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How DARE you deny prison scum medical treatment!!!! How DARE you!!!!May the FORCE be with you!
02-25-2014, 10:58 AM
Hepatitis is both highly contagious and treatable. It makes sense in a closed population to treat it to prevent transmission to others, including yourself, and to keep the overall health risks as low as possible.
HIV is different, I guess, as far as treatability goes. Treating it doesn't prevent transmission to others. I guess the only arguments would be humanitarian ones, and something tells me you are not really in the mood for that.
02-25-2014, 03:30 PM
I'm not going to bother. I will say this: one lawsuit from an HIV+ inmate who doesn't get his treatment could cost a lot more than treating the inmates who are HIV+. I'm not saying that it should be that way, just stating why it probably is that the DOC is covering those costs at this point in time.
02-25-2014, 07:17 PMThe Obama Administration: Deny. Deflect. Blame.
02-26-2014, 03:48 AM
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To sort of continue Noonie's argument, HIV+ inmates are at least less likely to transmit HIV to you ("you" being the guys who have to keep these characters where they belong) if they manage to bleed upon you while you also have an open wound (which can pretty much happen with even a relatively minor scuffle with an inmate). In a weird, ironic way, treating their HIV is sort of protecting you, as bizarre as that seems. It also helps prevent them from transmitting that HIV to other inmates who may finish their time some day. I think that you would agree that it would be a burglar doing five years relatively quietly should not get infected with HIV by some child molester doing five consecutive life terms, if for no other reason than that the burglar will finish his time and be released upon the public at some point.
Hepatitis has already been covered. That's some nasty shit and unless you want to do your job in a hazmat suit, treating these scumbags is the best thing for everyone until they drop dead.
Personally, I think inmates should get the minimum health care that will keep them alive unless and until they can pay their own way. Broken arm working on the chain gang? OK, the county/state/feds (as appropriate) needs to take care of that. Someone wants an adadictomy procedure? Piss on you; drum up your own $50,000 for the surgery, and that is after you have paid all restitution to the affected families, all fines, and completely reimbursed the relevant government for your incarceration. THEN you can engage in elective surgery at your own cost. You get cancer or your liver fails or whatever while you're in the pokey for kidnapping an eight-year-old? Sucks to be you; you should have considered the pain of dying from untreated cancer before you snatched a kid, shithead.
Public health concerns like hepatitis, though, just can't be ignored. We just can't have prisons full of hep-C carriers who may some day be loosed upon the public. That's just irresponsible.Olde-style, states' rights conservative. Ask if this concept confuses you.
02-26-2014, 12:29 PM
If you think the state's motivation is the safety of the custody staff then you're fooling yourselves. The state could give 2 craps about us. If they did they wouldn't keep eliminating positions leaving us vulnerable.The Obama Administration: Deny. Deflect. Blame.
SonnabendGuest03-01-2014, 09:25 PM
Not providing medical treatment for hepatitis victims = epidemic. In a closed community, as has been pointed out to you already, said epidemic would potentially kill hundreds. Including staff.
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