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  1. #1 Why Republicans Need the Tea Party 
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    Interesting article by David Horowitz

    Why Republicans Need the Tea Party
    By David Horowitz
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    Can the marriage between the Tea Party and the GOP survive?

    My answer is: It better. The White House is occupied by a lifelong anti-American radical who has done more to bankrupt this nationís economy, take us down as a military power, and destroy individual liberty than anyone would have thought possible in January 2009 when he took office. And itís worse than that. Obama is the head of a Democratic party that has moved so far to the left over the last 46 years that it has become antiĖfree market, anti-individualist, anti-constitutionalist, and unready to defend Americaís sovereign interests at home and abroad. We cannot afford to let such a party run our government for another four or eight years. The world cannot afford it.

    So how do we hold together the conservative coalition opposing this national suicide? How do we make this marriage survive? First of all, by recognizing that the basic difference between the Tea Party and the Republican party is a matter of tactics and temperament, not policy and ideology. To understand what I mean by this, one has to go back to the flashpoint that has made the possibility of a Republican schism a topic of the day: the famous alleged government shutdown by tea-party hero Ted Cruz. I probably should acknowledge here that I am a huge fan of what the Tea Party represents, though not always what it does. I believe the emergence of the Tea Party is the most important political development in conservatism in the last 25 years, and is possibly the last best hope for our country.

    The government shutdown was the alleged result of Senator Cruzís filibuster of a continuing resolution to fund the government. In fact, the House had passed a resolution to fund the government but not Obamacare. In the Senate, however, Majority Leader Harry Reid stripped the Obamacare-funding ban from the bill. Cruz conducted a one-man filibuster to express his opposition, both to Reid and to the Republicans who voted to fund Obamacare rather than join him. And so Republicans attacked each other instead of the real culprits.

    You might ask yourself this question: What would have happened if the Republican party and the Tea Party and the big PACs run by Rove and Koch had funded a $30 million campaign to put the blame on Obama and Reid, where it belonged? There was no such campaign. All the parties on our side failed to take the fight to the enemy camp. The finger-pointing that followed is just another example of the circular firing squad that we on the right are so good at and that continually sets us back.

    Hereís a second important point that applies to all the frictions between tea partiers and Republican regulars. The conflict among the Right about the Obama shutdown was not about policy. It was about tactics. Every Republican in Congress is opposed to Obamacare, with no exceptions. Not a single Republican legislator voted for it. Not a single Republican legislator would support it. The issue is how best to defeat the Democrats and repeal a monstrous law ó how to defeat the socialist party that now controls our government and is hell-bent on bankrupting our country, crippling our military, and destroying the culture of individualism and opportunity that has made this nation what it is.

    Understanding that what divides us is tactical, not fundamental, is crucial to keeping the marriage alive. A tactical difference is no grounds for divorce.....
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    The party is a lost cause, both are for that matter. Time for a constitutional conservative party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    The party is a lost cause, both are for that matter. Time for a constitutional conservative party.
    We have that already Rock.... The TEA Party! The Republican Party has no other interest than their own power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache View Post
    We have that already Rock.... The TEA Party! The Republican Party has no other interest than their own power.
    The name sucks.

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    Name it the Bacon party, everyone loves bacon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    The party is a lost cause, both are for that matter. Time for a constitutional conservative party.


    Now you get it?

    Me thinks alot of people will still pull the lever for the "R" regardless who they put up in 2016.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon Labe View Post


    Now you get it?

    Me thinks alot of people will still pull the lever for the "R" regardless who they put up in 2016.
    Tell us oh great one, what is the alternative? You at least stand a better chance of getting someone halfway decent voting Republican. Taking your ball and going home like you people did in 2012 gets us what we have now, a president who is pushing his agenda forward by executive fiat. Since you didn't vote, you are directly responsible for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Tell us oh great one, what is the alternative? You at least stand a better chance of getting someone halfway decent voting Republican. Taking your ball and going home like you people did in 2012 gets us what we have now, a president who is pushing his agenda forward by executive fiat. Since you didn't vote, you are directly responsible for this.
    Amen. I just hope that the Repubicans have the sense to make nice with the Tea Party. I admire the Tea Party and their principles more than the Republicans at this point. I agree with the article that they both have the same basic goals.

    I don't think it's any difference than years ago, when the country club Republicans were scornful of the Christian right, but played nice (on the surface) so they could get their votes and their help. I witnessed it first hand some years ago when my ex's relative, who was highly placed in Republican politics in Missouri, had many of the folks from the far right come help on his campaigns. His problem was that he appealed to the people, was a bango-playing guy who acted like a kid sometimes, but pontificated most of the time on everything and anything.

    The country club guys looked down their patrician noses at him, although he was from a family of some wealth and prominence. The Republicans haven't changed. I have developed a dislike for politics in gneral over the years, seeing the warts perhaps a bit too closely. But taking the lesser of two evils, I will almost always pull that Republican lever, because I can't stand the consequences of not voting or voting Dem.

    Obama is ruining our country. He and his philosophy need to be stopped before its too late. Our country can't stand having someone carrying on his ideas for another 4-8 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    ... I agree with the article that they both have the same basic goals.

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    This part I strongly disagree with you on SLW. How many old guard R's have stood with the likes of Cruz on issues that matter? Many Conservatives have been left out to dry by the RNC funding machine... was that for the same basic goal of ???? (Democrats?) No, the Republicans have no common goals with the TEA Party...
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Tell us oh great one, what is the alternative? You at least stand a better chance of getting someone halfway decent voting Republican. Taking your ball and going home like you people did in 2012 gets us what we have now, a president who is pushing his agenda forward by executive fiat. Since you didn't vote, you are directly responsible for this.

    Huh?...... Rockn' is suggesting the same thing you are getting butt hurt over.

    And you got it all wrong. You still don't get voter dynamics do you?

    2 terms of idiocy in Bushy policies are what led directly to your new lord. The Tea party initially formed as a direct response to Bush policies in early 2007...not Obama. Voters vote for what they "real" changes they percieve. The GOP gave us McCain and Romney. So we understood that no real change was coming in 07 or 12'.......But you are right that the tea party stayed home during those elections and helped open some eyes. Hope you can get on board in 16'. Based on what you are saying probably not.
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