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    Quote Originally Posted by ASquareDealer View Post
    Should homosexuality be rendered illegal here in the US the same way it is in Uganda?
    I wish I could say that's a stupid question, but in light of some of the responses to the Uganda thing (making excuses for them and so forth), I've been wondering what some people think too. Just once, I'd like to hear somebody say "Yes, homosexusality is a sin, but I don't want them going to jail." Just once, I'd like to hear it and I don't think I'm wanting too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaRepub View Post
    Honestly, could you at least try and not be such an obvious putz???



    To answer your stupid troll question, no it should not. What most people here
    on CU have a problem with is the flaming in your face (and other areas) gays
    that act like total assholes and think that is normal.

    Now go back to the Gay Police on DU and report!!!!
    SR, I think the question was justified. I'm reading posters making excuses with or even siding with the Uganda government or the Russian government and nobody tells them that they're wrong. You (generic you) can't constantly expect to have stuff like that and have nobody wonder.

    It's like going on DU, seeing troop bashing, and then seeing nobody ever tell them that they're wrong (and the reason I don't is because I'm honestly not there most of the time).

    I'll be up front and say that I've been subscribed to Christian pages on facebook where people are making excuses for Uganda and Russia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    SR, I think the question was justified. I'm reading posters making excuses with or even siding with the Uganda government or the Russian government and nobody tells them that they're wrong. You (generic you) can't constantly expect to have stuff like that and have nobody wonder.

    It's like going on DU, seeing troop bashing, and then seeing nobody ever tell them that they're wrong (and the reason I don't is because I'm honestly not there most of the time).

    I'll be up front and say that I've been subscribed to Christian pages on facebook where people are making excuses for Uganda and Russia.
    Lanie,

    It's not about homosexuals themselves. No one that I know wants homosexuals hassled by vice squads like they were in the 1960s. And no one I know wants homosexuals put in prison, unless they molest children or rape an adult.

    The problem is the GLBT movement itself and the shift in the moral playing field: everything is now excused (or toned down) when homosexuals commit crimes. Think about Brinkin in San Francisco who was into BABY PORN (I know you don't approve of that Lanie): the national media never mentions it and the local media downplayed it even though the images this man was into were beyond disgusting. Brinkin was the "father of gay 'marriage'", a hero in "gay scholarship" so no one mentions it. Do you think if Brinkin had been a Catholic priest, the media would have hushed it up?

    Think about the many rapes occurring in the armed services, male on male. It's a sensitive hot potato no one wants to touch because the rainbow flags are going up on military bases. Ody was particularly concerned by them.

    Meanwhile, the GLBT movement is trying to criminalize religious practice: if you don't believe that homosexuals can have a "marriage" and you are evil, a bigot, and breaking US law. Yet, if a homosexual hairdresser doesn't like your stance on "gay 'marriage'", he can drop you as a client.

    The GLBT movement doesn't want to play fair, doesn't want to live and let live. They want everything their own way regardless of the rights of others. Expressing support for Uganda or Russia is, in some ways, a safety valve for those who feel the incursion of homosexual victim politics as a major force and want it stopped. If you really stopped to ask them, they probably wouldn't want anyone in prison for what they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms: that is between the people involved, their church, and their personal deity. It is not a governmental matter as long as both are adults and consenting.

    But when all manner of evil can be excused or kicked under the rug because we can't afford to hurt the feelings of a homosexual, then we have strayed far from both God and law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Lanie,

    It's not about homosexuals themselves. No one that I know wants homosexuals hassled by vice squads like they were in the 1960s. And no one I know wants homosexuals put in prison, unless they molest children or rape an adult.
    I would agree with that, and thank you for acknowledging the 1960s on this subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    The problem is the GLBT movement itself and the shift in the moral playing field: everything is now excused (or toned down) when homosexuals commit crimes. Think about Brinkin in San Francisco who was into BABY PORN (I know you don't approve of that Lanie): the national media never mentions it and the local media downplayed it even though the images this man was into were beyond disgusting. Brinkin was the "father of gay 'marriage'", a hero in "gay scholarship" so no one mentions it. Do you think if Brinkin had been a Catholic priest, the media would have hushed it up?
    The media is generally liberal, and I do believe that's wrong. Oddly enough, I've been resorting to local news (which isn't a bad things) and even Fox news at times (up until I can't take the conservative slant anymore). I do acknowledge that MSNBC, CNN, and probably BBC all have a liberal bias. That was made clear when people took up for a black rapist with who was a minor with no consideration for his victim. That was made clear when there wasn't much coverage of that abortion doctor's trial. It's not just a gay rights thing. It's a liberal thing, and I'm sorry for that.

    FWIW, I had never heard of Brinkin until recently. The guy should never see the light of day. I don't think people who are into children that way should be let go because there is no successful rehabilitation program for these people. I'd rather let a one time murderer who killed out of passion back out on the street before a child molestor. As for Catholic priests, I'm not sure. I haven't heard a major story on that lately except for the UN condemning the RCC and the RCC telling them they're twisting stuff. I do know that Pope Benedict is actually responsible for quite a few molestors being pushe out of the priesthood and the liberal media doesn't report on that. If it was Francis (who they're trying to make their Pope), they might do so. One thing I do love about Francis is his ability to piss off conservatives and liberals alike. lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Think about the many rapes occurring in the armed services, male on male. It's a sensitive hot potato no one wants to touch because the rainbow flags are going up on military bases. Ody was particularly concerned by them.
    What about the concern about raping women? That's been a concern for years and has been used to justify the concept of not letting women play a more active role in the military.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    Meanwhile, the GLBT movement is trying to criminalize religious practice: if you don't believe that homosexuals can have a "marriage" and you are evil, a bigot, and breaking US law. Yet, if a homosexual hairdresser doesn't like your stance on "gay 'marriage'", he can drop you as a client.
    I don't think a homosexual can legally drop you as a client for disagreeing with him or her. There is a lot of debate as to whether to make businesses service gay weddings. I've taken the stance of allowing conscientous objection (although certain proposed laws lately would have allowed any type of discrimination IMO, so I wasn't for those). I argued this out with a gay friend the other day. I said this is why people were against gay marriages in the first place. Then, I brought up that my religion says that I'm not supposed to hate people, but that according to his stance, I should be willing to sell supplies to Fred Phelps to protest a gay person's funeral. He was that's right and that's how it should be. I've heard Nova here talk about how if anybody tries to attack Fred Phelps in a protest, that Phelps has the right to shoot them. So, not all gays are for taking rights away from other people. I think it's the worst of the worst in regards to activists. Activists always go too far.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    The GLBT movement doesn't want to play fair, doesn't want to live and let live. They want everything their own way regardless of the rights of others. Expressing support for Uganda or Russia is, in some ways, a safety valve for those who feel the incursion of homosexual victim politics as a major force and want it stopped. If you really stopped to ask them, they probably wouldn't want anyone in prison for what they do in the privacy of their own bedrooms: that is between the people involved, their church, and their personal deity. It is not a governmental matter as long as both are adults and consenting.
    In college, I once gave an analysis about two civilizations who were currently fighting. I can't remember who they are now. Anyway, my conclusion was that people on both sides of the issue felt that in order to have their own rights, that they needed to take rights away from others. I think that might be the case between the conservative Christians and some of the gay activists. I would like it to be so that nobody's rights get violated for the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    But when all manner of evil can be excused or kicked under the rug because we can't afford to hurt the feelings of a homosexual, then we have strayed far from both God and law.
    Agreed, although I wouldn't just apply that to homosexuals.
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