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    Quote Originally Posted by BadCat View Post
    Can you vote in the primary tomorrow? Dr. Brennan needs your support. We don't need Thom Tillis.
    I've already voted for him. I also voted for Levinson over the judge currently in office (not that judges should be up for a vote).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    I've already voted for him. I also voted for Levinson over the judge currently in office (not that judges should be up for a vote).
    Damn. There is hope for you.
    Thanks, Brennan seems like a good guy, and that lady judge is just batshit insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadCat View Post
    Can you vote in the primary tomorrow? Dr. Brennan needs your support. We don't need Thom Tillis.
    We're getting Thom if we like it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    If only life was so simple as to believe it's all about politics.
    No, it's not all about politics, never has been. It's a matter of reprehensible behavior and character. Most of my post history with you has less to do with your politics than it does with your behavior and character.

    I can believe that voting Republican is the right thing to do in light of...
    Here's an idea: How about instead of worrying over whether or not you are voting for the right party, you vote for that which more closely aligns with your common core beliefs? Maybe approach it on an individual level since the idea of personal freedom and individual liberty starts with "one" and moves outward?

    So, don't expect me to think certain people are nice... You're still not a nice person... So, don't expect me to think you're nice....
    Oh, yes, I am. I am one of the most loyal, kind, loving, giving, accommodating people that you would ever want to meet. Where that falls apart is when:

    • Dealing with a hyper emotional, completely unreasonable idiot.
    • Having an ego-maniacal fool ask for tools and then throw them on the ground at my feet.
    • Anything against veterans and active duty personnel.
    • Anyone who keeps repeating the same, stupid mistakes after being shown where they are wrong.
    • Collectivist trash, one and all.
    • I get lied to.

    That is by no means a comprehensive, or ordered, list, but you get the idea.

    You are an around 30ish, grown woman who, despite the best efforts of many, never was able to get past your padded nursery and see reality for what it was until it finally blasted you in the face enough times. You should be embarrassed at what you have been, but I don't know if you have enough humility within your character to pull it off. Personally, I hope you prove me wrong on that.

    Bridget, I personally don't don't care whether or not you think I'm "nice". There are alot of "nice" people fucking over good people each and every day. "Nice" is for children, "good" and "just" is what you are looking for. What you get from me is a swift kick in your ass which, believe it or not, is an effective tool for snapping people back into reality. Don't think for one second that it would ever change; if you're starting to wake up, you'll be held to a higher standard and dealt with by your peers with those higher standards in mind. We're hard on the DUmmies, we are harder on each other which is as it should be.

    We are well past the point as a society to have to worry about feelings, dear. Things are critical and not getting any better. You don't have the luxury being coddled, nor should you be coddled and handled with kid gloves at your age.

    People on the same side of the voting aisle don't have to always agree or even get along... People on the same side don't have to think the other person is nice. They can still think the other person is the worst person on the planet and still vote the same way in November.
    Bravo, dear! You are absolutely correct. That's part of the whole common core values thing I mentioned earlier. We conservatives share them, though they may sometimes be few. This is what drives us, unlike the libs where it's a cabal of egos jostling for the biggest crumb their masters throw their way.

    Oh, and I'm still a leftist where it matters most. Economics.
    I think you'll find that once you truly figure out the moral issues of liberalism, you'll find how it affects economics as well. Don't be surprised when your views change on that, too.

    That doesn't mean I hate or am against minorities. I love all of them. I know it will be taken that way, and I'm sorry.
    How about you treat them as individuals and not "minorities"? If you look at anyone as an individual, you'll find that their color, creed, race, sex, etc no longer matters.

    I can understand your skeptism though and I expect things to stay that way for a while.

    Yes, I know what I said in the past. Yes, I know some of it was recent. That was me fighting myself. I'm sorry for being hard headed for ten years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasp69 View Post
    How about you treat them as individuals and not "minorities"? If you look at anyone as an individual, you'll find that their color, creed, race, sex, etc no longer matters.
    I agree. A person is so much more than gay, black, white, or whatever. The problem is when they find out how you're voting and why, they think you're against them.


    Quote Originally Posted by wasp69 View Post
    Don't dishonor those who have invested their time, patience, and wisdom in you, for it will be them to which you will answer.
    That street goes left and right. You have no idea how much time and effort some of my more liberal friends put into me too. I feel guilty about all of that. But you know what? I shouldn't have to feel guilty. I'm a human being, not a science experiment. I'm fed up with people treating me as such. I don't need a mentor to try to mold me into their image. I have a part of my personality which likes to find out why people think what they do. It's also open minded. People confuse that with something (notice I said something and not someone) to convert. I had JW neighbors once talk about how I was ripe for conversion. I think the Imam I spoke to years ago in my "interview" thread saw how open minded I could be. He wanted me to come to service the following weekend. The thing is I am in my thirties. I'll still change my mind on stuff, but that period of people using me for experiments is over. So that's my answer to those who invested their time and effort into me. I'm sorry for your disappointment, but you didn't have a right to do that in the first place. I need friends who like me no matter what I am, a way to explain my views to those who don't understand, the courage to stand my ground, and a swift kick in the ass every once in a while. What I don't need is a person trying to convert me left and right (literally, left and right). However, you're right in saying it's time to be more responsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zathras View Post
    So you'll never be voting Democrat ever again. You'll be dead and buried long before what you want happens in the Democrat party.
    But then, she will be back to voting Dem!

    In all seriousness, Welcome to the reservation, Lanie! I hope you stay!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    I agree. A person is so much more than gay, black, white, or whatever.
    That is true, however Conservatism is something that works on an individual level; our founding documents state as much.

    The problem is when they find out how you're voting and why, they think you're against them.
    You have a lot of cleaning up to do, don't you?

    That street goes left and right. You have no idea how much time and effort some of my more liberal friends put into me too. I feel guilty about all of that. But you know what? I shouldn't have to feel guilty. I'm a human being, not a science experiment. I'm fed up with people treating me as such. I don't need a mentor to try to mold me into their image.
    If you had been paying attention, you will see that no one here sought to mold you into their image; stamping out copies is something liberals do which is why you find that creepy uniformity in everything they say and do. The members here were trying to lead you to an answer, an obvious one that was staring you in the face.

    I have a part of my personality which likes to find out why people think what they do. It's also open minded.
    I was told as a young man that it's good to have an open mind, but not one so open that my brain fell out.

    People confuse that with something (notice I said something and not someone) to convert. I had JW neighbors once talk about how I was ripe for conversion. I think the Imam I spoke to years ago in my "interview" thread saw how open minded I could be. He wanted me to come to service the following weekend. ...What I don't need is a person trying to convert me left and right (literally, left and right).
    Conservatism, unlike liberalism, is not a religion. There are no rituals, there are no catechisms, there are no politician "saviors". No "conversion" is necessary and the sooner you drop that paradigm of political "conversion", you may finally realize that you are free.

    The thing is I am in my thirties. I'll still change my mind on stuff, but that period of people using me for experiments is over. So that's my answer to those who invested their time and effort into me. I'm sorry for your disappointment, but you didn't have a right to do that in the first place.
    The biggest insult anyone could ever give to anyone that sought to put tools into their hands is to throw them at their feet and tell them they didn't have the right to do it in the first place. That's what you have done to the good people of this website who spent more hours than they should have trying to get you to see the cold light of reality. Anyone who cannot accept wisdom when it is given freely is intellectually dishonest.

    Make of that what you will...

    I need friends who like me no matter what I am, a way to explain my views to those who don't understand, the courage to stand my ground, and a swift kick in the ass every once in a while.
    You got that here, for more years than you deserved. The problem was that anytime you got that "swift kick in the ass", you cried about how "mean" it was. I personally don't coddle, especially adults, when it comes to something so damned serious as to the reckless philosophy of modern Western liberalism and the utter destruction it is wreaking on this country. If getting slapped with the obvious is something you can't handle, then your trip out of the darkness will stall (again) and you will backslide into the liberal democrat cesspool (again).

    Reality is cold and hard, dear, and there is no reason to sugarcoat it to someone in their 30s. What you have constantly deemed as "mean" was nothing more than varying degrees of slapping you upside your head to get you to wake up.

    However, you're right in saying it's time to be more responsible.
    Long past time...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thundley4 View Post
    Too many black people vote without even looking at the issues. They buy into the lies spewed by the left without giving them critical consideration.
    When it comes to blacks it's race first, party 2nd, all else is a distant 3rd.
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    Lanie

    Oh, and I'm still a leftist where it matters most. Economics.
    Lanie,

    Please support this statement.

    "Leftist economics" as in Marx? Keynes? Galbraith?
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    Lanie,

    Please support this statement.

    "Leftist economics" as in Marx? Keynes? Galbraith?
    I still support healthcare reform. I'd like to see Obamacare be reformed rather than appealed. Honestly, I think Republicans in the next ten to twenty years will be speaking from that angle. But if Republicans present other options in the future, I'll listen.

    I still don't think unemployment should have been cut in my state so much. Some are only getting eight weeks.

    I still support progressive taxation because a single mother struggling to make it needs her money back more than a single person with no kids or a rich person. It's not about punishing the rich for me. As a single person with no kids, I've often found this policy to be annoying, but yet I understand it.

    I still support raising minimum wage on occasion to keep up with inflation, but I realize it can never be a "living wage."


    On the other hand, I have made other arguments that were conservative. I've often argued that raising minimum wage is a band-aid solution and that what we need to be doing is getting some of these people trained for better paying jobs. I've also argued that it's dumb to start somebody at McDonalds out at 15.00 per hour when a lot of them will leave in a few months. *I* don't make 15.00 an hour. Give me a break.

    I don't think we need to be giving people cell phones, especially since some of them have the money to upgrade.

    I'd like to change the food stamp program so where you can only buy food that is real food so to speak. No more candy and pop. Adam Wood once suggested on another board that we demand it's only generic stuff. While I have no problem with generics, I know some do and it might encourage them to not want to use it.

    I've made arguments for why complete socialism is a bad idea using Venezuela as an example.
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