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    Palin denies wrongdoing in 'Troopergate' scandal

    From correspondents in Ohio

    October 11, 2008 05:49pm

    US vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin acted "within proper and lawful authority" in removing the Alaska's public safety commissioner, the McCain-Palin Republican presidential ticket said in response to a state report.

    An Alaska ethics inquiry found on Friday that Governor Palin, John McCain's vice presidential candidate, abused the power of her state office in connection with the dismissal of Alaska Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan.

    The state investigation centered on whether the firing of Mr Monegan was linked to Governor Palin's personal feud with Michael Wooten, a state trooper involved in a contentious divorce with the governor's sister.

    The inquiry found that while it was within the governor's authority to dismiss Mr Monegan, she violated the public trust by pressuring those who worked for her to act in a way that advanced her personal wishes.

    "Governor Palin knowingly permitted a situation to continue where impermissible pressure was placed on several subordinates in order to advance a personal agenda, to wit: to get Trooper Michael Wooten fired," the report said.

    A statement from the McCain-Palin campaign said: "Today's report shows that the Governor acted within her proper and lawful authority in the reassignment of Walt Monegan."

    "This was a partisan led inquiry run by (Barack) Obama supporters and the Palins were completely justified in their concern regarding Trooper (Michael) Wooten given his violent and rogue behavior," the campaign's statement said.

    Barack Obama is the Democratic presidential candidate.

    "Lacking evidence to support the original Monegan allegation, the Legislative Council seriously overreached, making a tortured argument to find fault without basis in law or fact," the McCain-Palin statement said.

    The finding cast a cloud over John McCain's controversial choice of running mate for the November 4 election. On the day it was published he reined in an aggressive strategy against Barack Obama that had failed to cut into his Democratic rival's lead.

    After a week in which he and Governor Palin fiercely attacked Senator Obama and inflamed supporters by urging them to question his fitness to be president, Senator McCain switched to a milder tone, calling on frustrated loyalists to respect the Illinois senator.

    Supporters appeared surprised by his conciliatory approach, booing at a Minneapolis rally when he told a skeptical backer that Senator Obama was a "decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared (of) as president of the United States."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyelids View Post
    Im so sick of croneyism bullshit. Sure this might not affect the polls but do we need another asshole who has loyalty tests and fires people for purely political or personal reasons? This just reeks of the US Attorneys, I know you'll turn a blind eye to anything your dimwit, spoiled, daddy's girl beauty queen does but she's as corrupt as they come.

    The "loyalty" test crap was just another LIE put out by the left.


    Meanwhile the TRUTH that the Dems were the main governmental problems in the Current economic unrest, by taking sweetheart loans and massive campaign donations in exchange for resisting Republican efforts to reign in the abuses of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. You ignore the TRUTH that Obama was part of two lawsuits against the banks who refused to make these bad loans and his "community organizing" consisted partly of organizing protests of and efforts to embarrass other banks who refused to make these loans.


    You ignore the fact that radical groups have received literally BILLIONS of taxpayer money to enact their radical agenda.
    I long for the days when our President actually liked our country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyelids View Post
    Im so sick of croneyism bullshit. Sure this might not affect the polls but do we need another asshole who has loyalty tests and fires people for purely political or personal reasons? This just reeks of the US Attorneys, I know you'll turn a blind eye to anything your dimwit, spoiled, daddy's girl beauty queen does but she's as corrupt as they come.
    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081011/D93O5ESG0.html
    The legislative committee that released the report Friday recommends no criminal investigation and has no authority to sanction the governor, the Republican vice presidential nominee.
    Suck it you drama queen. ;)
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    Comment by LC MuscleDaddy

    Okay - here’s the problem… (please bear with me)

    Let’s start with our reference material, being the report & findings in question.

    While I’m as happy as anyone else with the “within her rights to fire the insubordinate ass-bag” - part, there is, unfortunately, another part…

    In the linked doc, go to page 8 to see “Finding 1″ - this is where the “abuse of power’ part comes from.

    Apparently, Alaskan statutes maintain that “…each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust.”

    It also defines “benefit” as “anything that is to a person’s advantage or self-interest, regardless of financial gain”. (pg 49)

    It further identifies “personal interest” to include “immediate family members” which, in turn, includes “siblings” (pg 50).

    Finally, “Official Action” is defined as “…advice, participation, or assistance, including… a recommendation, decision, approval, disapproval, vote, or other similar action, including inaction, by a public officer.” (pg. 50)
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    Okay - so basically it boils down to this:

    When Sarah & Todd kept asking where the investigation was going, RE: her sister’s complaints about the kid tasering, moose poaching, drunk driving, criminality-bragging state-trooper-ex-husband…

    … and repeatedly asked why such an embarrassing asshat was allowed to continue to represent the agency and the state of Alaska….

    …that was a breach of ethics - as those inquiries were “official actions” committed for the “benefit” of her “sibling”.

    Todd’s inquiries apparently count against Sarah as well, since she didn’t stop him from making them, bringing us back to the “inaction” part noted above.

    That is the purported “Abuse of Power”.
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    But wait…. what’s this?…

    Waaaayy down on page 79 - under the heading “The Second Recommendation”…

    “The legislature should consider amending AS 39.25.080 to permit those who file complaints against peace officers to receive some feedback about the status and outcome of their complaint”

    Hmmm….

    So… this all got started because the AK state police had apparently ‘circular filed’ all of the sister’s complaints - and there was no legislative requirement to give the complaintant any information - so Sarah and Todd had to try to run it down for themselves…

    …just to keep the department from doing whatever-the-hell-they-wanted?

    (page 58 references an account of Wooten[asshat] having been slapped with a Restraining Order for harrassing and intimidating his ex-wife….which was lifted, when his supervisors intervened - looks like whatever-the-hell-they-want was the order of the day…)

    Well - there we are.

    Myself? If pursuing a do-nothing police agency over a do-nothing investigation of an asshat-scumbag-embarrassment of an officer is “Ethically Wrong”…


    I don’t wanna be right (and like her better knowing she feels the same way)

    Like the man says:

    thatisall.
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    This turd was too mushy to stay on my stick - so I left it where it was when it was announced.

    The real point is that folks with even half a brain have seen her now - know what she is - a cute little cardboard cut out - and after McCain loses this election, will be able to go back home in time to make a snowman.

    Non-issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LogansPapa View Post
    This turd was too mushy to stay on my stick - so I left it where it was when it was announced.

    The real point is that folks with even half a brain have seen her now - know what she is - a cute little cardboard cut out - and after McCain loses this election, will be able to go back home in time to make a snowman with her litter.

    Non-issue.
    Too bad she didn't murder them in utero, huh, LogansPapa. Could you be any more bloodthirsty? At least she kills animals instead of human infants.
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    In actual dollars, President Obama’s $4.4 trillion in deficit spending in just three years is 37 percent higher than the previous record of $3.2 trillion (held by President George W. Bush) in deficit spending for an entire presidency. It’s no small feat to demolish an 8-year record in just 3 years.

    Under Obama’s own projections, interest payments on the debt are on course to triple from 2010 (his first budgetary year) to 2018, climbing from $196 billion to $685 billion annually.
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    The real point is that folks with even half a brain have seen her now - know what she is - a cute little cardboard cut out - and after McCain loses this election, will be able to go back home in time to make a snowman with her litter.
    1. She does not have a "litter", she has a family, and you should apologise for that snide crack. Even for you, that was fucking offensive.:mad::mad:

    2. Speaking as a man who wanted kids and was denied them for reasons beyond control, the fact she has five wonderful children and a loving husband, speaks volumes for who she is.

    3. She was Mayor and Governor and is no ones "cut out", so that's also way wrong.

    4. There are plenty of folks here with minds of their own, and virtually all of them disagree with you on that subject...so I'd then ask if you are now referring to everyone on this board as having less than "half a brain"?

    That's a real nice hole you've dug for yourself.

    5. It takes someone very special indeed to know they are carrying a Downs baby, carry it to term and have a family who will love that child..as that photo earlier shows, that family will see to it the child receives all the care in the world..and I am forcibly reminded of a day when I was called to Emergency to courier / escort a nurse.

    She had a basket, and inside was a gorgeous baby, maybe three days old. We were to take it to Maternity ICU. Why?

    It had been dumped on the doorstep with a note "I don't want a retard baby. You take it".

    LP..we may disagree, but most of the time you put your points well, and argue well and cogently. I can respect that.

    But that comment above does you no credit....uisng the word "litter" to describe a womans family is fucking disgusting.

    RETRACT IT and apologise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    1. She does not have a "litter", she has a family, and you should apologise for that snide crack. Even for you, that was fucking offensive.:mad::mad:


    RETRACT IT and apologise.
    Could be that he can not get a woman/wife and or have a family; even a Bow Wow won't have him.

    If McCain loses, she will be the nominee in 012. LP & CW are full of it if they think this is her last rodeo in the Presidential arena. I believe that if she was at the top of the ticket she would slaughter the O.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonnabend View Post
    1. She does not have a "litter", she has a family,

    Thank you.
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