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    Default 06-13-2008, 01:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    We don't have evidence that life exists on planets other than Earth, but our presence in the Universe proves that the existence and prevalence of life in the Universe is a matter of probability. Consider the Drake Equation as explained by Carl Sagan...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB_v99FSTYc
    Try and talk around it as much as you want, but the fact still remain. We have zero proof of life existing and you and/or the Scientific community believe in alien life forms existing with no shred of evidence. You are a hypocrite to mock people who have faith in God, yet you believe in E.T.

    Quote whoever you want. Provided whatever graphical statists you want. Its all bullshit, since none of it can be proven. It all boils down to faith.
     
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    Default 06-13-2008, 01:31 PM
    And again I got sucked into a debate on religion, when I said I wont do it.. I need to be more careful about this.:mad:
     
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    Default 06-13-2008, 01:39 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    Having faith in oneself is a lot different from having faith in God because having faith in oneself, unlike having faith in God, usually does not involve believing extravagant claims. For instance, I have faith in my ability to cook eggs because I've eaten evidence of my ability to cook eggs. Conversely, I don't have faith in God because I've never come across any evidence that God exists.
    Did you ever think that you've never come across evidence because you never wanted to? That you couldn't or wouldn't recognize it because you don't want it to be real?
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    Default 06-13-2008, 01:44 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas View Post
    Try and talk around it as much as you want, but the fact still remain. We have zero proof of life existing and you and/or the Scientific community believe in alien life forms existing with no shred of evidence. You are a hypocrite to mock people who have faith in God, yet you believe in E.T.

    Quote whoever you want. Provided whatever graphical statists you want. Its all bullshit, since none of it can be proven. It all boils down to faith.
    Did you not watch the video of Carl Sagan explaining the Drake Equation? Sagan clearly indicated that there is a chance that we might be alone in the Universe.

    Like Carl Sagan, I don't claim to know that aliens exist. I just think that the presence of life on Earth strongly suggests that life may exist on planets other than Earth. Religious people, however, claim to know that God exists and often won't even consider the possibility that it does not.

    I don't have any problem wth people engaging in speculation about God's existence. In fact, I'm completely in favor of that sort of speculation. I just don't think that people should base belief systems on speculation.
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    Default 06-13-2008, 01:49 PM
    I can say with great certainty that when the last Communist nation falls to Democracy - installed there by our benevolent society, there will still be about 3 billion human beings living under various forms of communism, under the guise of Christianity.
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    Default 06-13-2008, 02:12 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by LogansPapa View Post
    I can say with great certainty that when the last Communist nation falls to Democracy - installed there by our benevolent society, there will still be about 3 billion human beings living under various forms of communism, under the guise of Christianity.
    In his book God is not Great, Christopher Hitchens makes a very compelling argument that totalitarianism and religion are derived from the same impulses...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3RZUAQSn98
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkIibyNwWrk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTx50ECJSEk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir6eCTpNEWc
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    Default 06-13-2008, 02:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by Junebug68 View Post
    Did you ever think that you've never come across evidence because you never wanted to? That you couldn't or wouldn't recognize it because you don't want it to be real?
    If evidence of God cannot be supplied, I would be willing to settle for a theory of God.
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    Default 06-13-2008, 02:15 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    In his book God is not Great, Christopher Hitchens makes a very compelling argument that totalitarianism and religion are derived from the same impulses...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3RZUAQSn98
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkIibyNwWrk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTx50ECJSEk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir6eCTpNEWc
    Hitchens is a drunken buffoon. I could down a few glasses of scotch and write a book about how atheists and anarchists are cut from the same cloth, too.
     
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    Default 06-13-2008, 02:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    In his book God is not Great, Christopher Hitchens makes a very compelling argument that totalitarianism and religion are derived from the same impulses...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3RZUAQSn98
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkIibyNwWrk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTx50ECJSEk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir6eCTpNEWc
    I used to like Hitchens. He is sometimes very eloquent. Now he's just become a Neo-con talking boy. Sad really. At least his brother has not lost his mind.
    He doesn't come across as a happy atheist at all.
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    Default 06-13-2008, 02:21 PM
    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    If evidence of God cannot be supplied, I would be willing to settle for a theory of God.
    Define what you would accept as evidence.
     
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