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10-29-2008, 08:30 AM
They'd never do it. But Biden said he would when a person asked in a recent rally, I heard the audio. He's so damn dumb...I can't believe nobody makes a big deal about it. Last week he said, "Barack Obama knows the most important job in America today is a 3 letter word: Jobs. J-O-B-S!'
I laughed my ass off over that one. The man in incoherant. :p"Don't vote. It only encourages the bastards." -PJ O'Roarke
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10-29-2008, 10:31 AM
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10-29-2008, 10:52 AM
What do they have to lose? If they can "prove" that Bush and his cabinet were war criminals, they can ensure that even when they are out of power, that no one will take action to defend America without getting every i dotted and t crossed, from the UN to the League of Women Voters, and even then, they'll be able to threaten future prosecution. This is how they use civilian complaint review boards and frivolous prosecutions to keep police from doing their jobs. After the LA riots, the LAPD was completely demoralized and spent the next decade in CYA mode. It was the same in NYC under Dinkins, when police knew that doing their jobs could cost them their jobs. Fortunately, Giuliani turned that around. What the left wants to do is make sure that every Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine keeps a copy of the Miranda warnings in their cargo pockets and is prepared to stop fighting long enough to read a terrorist his rights.
Oh no, they'll do it. This isn't the first time that they've promised it. Check out the Obama campaign flyer here. And they'll also trump up charges against anyone who they can convict, from the top down. The Democrats have learned one critical lesson from Vietnam, which is when you screw over the troops, you have to make us into the villainst of the piece. They have to produce a narrative that makes us out to be war criminals, psychos or dupes to justify their conduct during wartime. If we're not monsters, then they've done the nation a huge disservice by undermining our efforts, but if we're clueless screw-ups, then they have saved the rest of the world from us. That's why every mainstream studio release about Iraq has attacked us, it reinforces their narrative, justifies their contempt and erodes public support for us. They won't be happy until they're spitting on us in airports again.--Odysseus
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
Before you can do things for people, you must be the kind of man who can get things done. But to get things done, you must love the doing, not the people!
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10-29-2008, 11:46 AM
The key words are "if they can prove".
They can't prove. If they could, they would have started impeachment proceedings already.
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10-30-2008, 10:15 AM
Ah, but they don't have to prove anything. They just have to create a wall of inuendo. They'll have two venues for this, congressional hearings and show trials. The beauty of congressional hearings is that there is no standard of proof. The majority can stack the deck with any witnesses that it wants, feed them questions that lead to their pre-chosen conclusions and then issue a scathing report that has nothing to do with reality. The committee's report then gets repeated ad nauseum in the media. Remember John Kerry's testimony in the senate? Not a word of it was true, but it was repeated so often that the perception of Vietnam vets as out of control monsters was perpetuated for decades. That was the high point of liberal anti-war activism, and they'll cheerfully do it again.
The show trials are going to be where this gets truly ugly. The individual prosecutions of war crimes will be announced loudly, with lots of photo ops of troopies in handcuffs doing the perp walk while prominent Democrats denounce the actions of the accused as if they are already guilty (think Murtha and Haditha). It won't matter if the accused are ultimately acquitted, they'll have been dragged through the process and treated like criminals, and the acquittals will get far less press than the initial charges. And, of course, there will be isolated cases where the charges are true, and convictions occur. Those will be trumpeted throughout the media as typical, and they'll be given maximum exposure. Remember, these aren't going to be real trials based on evidence, but show trials for propaganda purposes. They'll also put tremendous pressure on the defendents to cop pleas and accept lesser sentences, which some troops will take, just because they don't have the resources to defend themselves. The end result will be that the media/Democratic alliance will have fabricated the impression of criminality among servicemembers, and that will be the big lie that they will repeat over and over again, until they no longer have to even pretend to support the troops.
See above, and watch your back.--Odysseus
Sic Hacer Pace, Para Bellum.
Before you can do things for people, you must be the kind of man who can get things done. But to get things done, you must love the doing, not the people!
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