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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    But Obama also said that he believed that Jesus was the bridge between man and God. That means that he thinks that Jesus is the way to God.
    That's not what he said. He said that Jesus WAS A bridge between man and God.

    'a' bridge. Not 'the' bridge. Christians believe Christ is THE savior.

    Also - he said -WAS. Chrsitians believe Christ IS the savior.

    There is no 'was' about it.
    If leftists didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by LogansPapa View Post
    A University of Texas survey finds that 23 percent of registered voters in the state still believe Barack Obama is a Muslim, though the Democratic nominee for president is Christian.

    FOXNews.com / Thursday, October 30, 2008


    A new poll finds that 23 percent of registered voters in Texas believe that Barack Obama is a Muslim, even though the Democratic candidate has repeatedly explained that he is a church-going Christian.

    The poll, conducted by the Texas Politics Project and Department of Government at The University of Texas in Austin, showed Obama trailing John McCain by 11 points in the Lone Star State.

    Forty-five percent of those polled accurately described Obama as a Protestant. But the 23 percent who identified his religion as Islam is about twice as high as in typical national polls.

    Throughout his presidential campaign, Obama has been fighting false rumors, largely hatched on the Internet, that he is secretly a Muslim.

    On Obama's Fight the Smears Web site, which his campaign set up to battle harmful claims, it says that Obama is a "committed Christian" who regularly attends church with his family.

    The Texas poll interviewed 550 registered voters in Texas from Oct. 15-22, and had a margin of error of 4.2

    http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10...obama-muslim/#

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOldLady View Post
    That's not what he said. He said that Jesus WAS A bridge between man and God.

    'a' bridge. Not 'the' bridge. Christians believe Christ is THE savior.

    Also - he said -WAS. Chrsitians believe Christ IS the savior.

    There is no 'was' about it.
    I think you, the reverand, and some others are nitpicking at every little word to make a point that is NOT there.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsSmith View Post
    He said, "[E]ven if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christians from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools?" Obama asked. "Would it be James Dobson's or Al Sharpton's? Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our own Defense Department would survive its application. But before we get carried away, let's read our Bibles. Folks haven't been reading their Bibles." He probably took this word for word from a leftist "christians are so dumb" site. If he thought this up himself, that's even worse. Every word displays a total and complete ignorance of the very basis of Christianity. If the man isn't ignorant, then he is even worse, a willful liar, trying to pass himself off as a Christian to gain a political office. Anyone who hasn't gotten past kindergarten theology shouldn't try to use it in a speech. Despite the opinions of some of our posters, this passage of Obama's marks him as far more idiotic than Sarah Palin could ever be. She could lose half her brain in an accident and still be smarter.
    The bible does say that stuff. He's right. And yes, people should read their bibles more. I've personally found that the majority of Christians wanting to condemn people for not being like them are often people who act like they're allergic to their bible.

    Now, Sunday School teachers have sometimes tried to teach what they think that stuff actually meant. The stoning one's child part, it's really good to get some Jewish input because they often can explain why the OT supposedly isn't as bad as it sounds.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsSmith View Post
    Parroting one line about Jesus being the bridge does not mean he's accepted Christ. In fact, he goes on to say that religion comes with a heft dose of doubt. Lanie, if you have doubt, you don't have Christ.

    Obama says that he determines what is sin, and what is not, not that God's values are his values.

    From his own mouth, he makes it clear that his christianity is for show only, not from his heart. If you don't understand that, then you need to do some more study on basic theology. You've missed most of it...

    No, Obama did NOT say that and I explained why in the past two posts. Some of you all are just wanting to use something, ANYTHING to make a Democratic politician out as not being a Christian. To be brutally honest, some Republicans (not all or hopefully even most of them) are coming off to me as the Pharasees as portrayed in the New Testament. Now, some Jews say they got a bum rap, but that's not the point. The point is the Pharasees are people who according to the NT think they're the only ones going to be with God. They want everybody else snubbed. They're very elitist. They make it clear that they want nobody else to be a part of their club. They're mad at Jesus for daring to include others and occasionally call them hypocrtes. I don't believe this represents most Republican Christians, but I honestly think it represents some of them (mostly the most vocal politicians and the so called religious right).
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    I think you, the reverand, and some others are nitpicking at every little word to make a point that is NOT there.
    Obama said words matter.
    And they do.
    He said exactly what he believes.
    And it isn't Christian.
    Period.

    His religion is self worship and he offers prayers to himself at the altar of religious pander.
    If leftists didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
     

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    I think you, the reverand, and some others are nitpicking at every little word to make a point that is NOT there.
    I guess you don't want to hear the other six reasons then? God's word isn't to be taken lightly and should be handled with reverence and great care rather than mocked as Mr. Obama has done in the video you agree with.
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    Back On Topic (BOT), Please!

    Texas has more than 13.2 million registered voters - so over 3,000,000 are that ignorant?
    At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    No, Obama did NOT say that and I explained why in the past two posts. Some of you all are just wanting to use something, ANYTHING to make a Democratic politician out as not being a Christian. To be brutally honest, some Republicans (not all or hopefully even most of them) are coming off to me as the Pharasees as portrayed in the New Testament. Now, some Jews say they got a bum rap, but that's not the point. The point is the Pharasees are people who according to the NT think they're the only ones going to be with God. They want everybody else snubbed. They're very elitist. They make it clear that they want nobody else to be a part of their club. They're mad at Jesus for daring to include others and occasionally call them hypocrtes. I don't believe this represents most Republican Christians, but I honestly think it represents some of them (mostly the most vocal politicians and the so called religious right).
    Tell me, Bridge, what about his "church" is Christian?
    Rabid hate of white people? Disdain for the country?
    He only went there for 20 years.
     

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    Oddly enough, if I want to understand the theology of Christianity, I'm not going to look to my president to explain it to me. But that may just be me.
     

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