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SonnabendGuest06-15-2008, 07:08 PMIf nothing else, Ron Paul introduced an entire generation of chat room, MySpace, FaceBook slackers to the principles of conservative freedom in a way that stuc
...just dont expect them to thank him for that any time soon.The level of insanity, obnoxious behaviour and idiocy will take a long time to be forgotten. RP's supporters will be remembered for destroying internet communities and some of the most reprehensible conduct ever seen anywhere.
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JohnGuest06-20-2008, 07:02 AM
You've got it all wrong. RP's supporters will be remembered for attempting to bring freedom of choice back into an America where freedom of choice has been surrendered to the political party in power. I choose to be both pro-gun rights and pro-gay marriage. Let the gays choose their own lives as I have chosen mine. I choose to be both 'green" and capitalist! We can still make money while doing what we can to keep America beautiful. "Paulites" have been given several ultimatums, and we choose both. What party represents me? The republicans should be fighting tooth and nail for my right to choose and voice my opinion. I'll fight right along side them should they choose the path of liberty...the path of least state control. RP's supporters will be remembered as men and women who tried their best to correct the damnedest mistakes of their predecessors by utilizing every non-violent tool available, and perhaps some more direct ones. Can you say the same? Did you march in the street to protest the elaborate spending of taxpayer wealth perpetrated by congress? Did you shout to have your voice heard while Parker V. D.C., now Heller V D.C. was in the courts? Those in the Ron Paul camp have and will continue to do so. Well keep growing in number as we do this as well.
We young, very libertarian, conservatives are the future of the republican party whether republicans, like you, like it or not. We are here, and we're signed up and motivated like no other republican voters since Regan brought the religious right into the fray. We're only going to get bigger while the collectivist republican "core" get smaller. We may overtake the party in a few short election cycles. Considering the fact that the the average voter blames everything from high gas prices to traffic jams on G. W. Bush, will we be too late to provide saving guidance to the party? Bush's coattails will earn more disdain for McCain than votes, that should be apparent to anyone with a minimal of political education.
To sum it up, we "Paulites" would like to put the husband and father back in charge of the family, not the DoE. We "Ron Paulites" would like to see an honest man keep what he earns for his family. We "Paullites" would like to see a nation dominated by trade, not fear. We would like to see a nation that respects the privacy of it's citizens above and beyond the secrecy of government. Those principles and those principles alone are enough to carry guys like me from PC to county chair in a few short years given the current state of so-called 'republicans', and what they claim to stand for.
You see neither the democrats nor the current collectivist republicans have a message as strong as ours. Americans want to stand on their own and raise their families as they see fit. The message the "Paullites' are spreading among the 'R' and moderate voters is within reasonable terms. The message of the Dems and the socialist right does not sit well with the American family core right now. No mother and father want to send their son off to die so that we may defend a soverign nation that cannot defend itself, and no mother and father want to foot the bill in addition! It's becoming quite apparent to Americans that war spending has impacted the value of their dollars, and this election cycle the republicans will see that Americans will not stand for it! The Republican party is about to experience a 'come to Jesus' meeting with the American public and there will be causalities. We "Paullites" are standing well ready and prepared to fill those gaps.
We're only going to get bigger from here, and with 20 million in a quarter fund raising capabilities, we'll be on par with the NRA and the FRC soon.
06-20-2008, 09:06 AM
Great post John. You seem to get it. Not everyone who supported Paul was a truther or an imbecile. They tended to be some of the most astute polemists about what is actually occuring in this country and that is destroying the Republican party. I become very concerned when I hear people touting conservatism as bigger government and more militarism. As if the Federal Goverment and "America" are one in the same. As if there is something inherantly good about another Federal department being created (DOHS) and more social programs being enacted (medicare prescripitions) or an increase in federal education spending (NCLB).
Too many Republicans today think in collectivist ideals and don't even realize that collectivism and true conservatism are both diametrically opposed. How are those that say such things any different than the socialists on the left?Gun Control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound - Unknown
The problem is Empty People, Not Loaded Guns - Linda Schrock Taylor
06-20-2008, 09:12 AM
If it had not been for his suicidal policy on Islamic terrorism, I would have voted for him.
I consider RP a VERY good Congressman and he gets just about everything right. The foreign policy thing for me though, was a deal breaker.
SonnabendGuest06-20-2008, 09:29 AMYou see, we libertarian leaning conservatives don't want your thanks, your judgment, nor your welcome.
Thank you for driving so many of our members away.
Thank you for making sure so many members are never coming back.
Thank you for the many members who would have signed up and didn't when they took one look at you and others like you.
Thank you and your ilk for postwhoring "Ron Paul Ron Paul" every single damned day in every thread, even when we werent even discussing the jerk, to the point that people gave up in disgust
It's not important to us in the slightest. As a matter of fact, those who have re-discovered conservatism realize that you and your kind never knew what it meant in the first place.
You came to "convert us" as you did so many other forums and places you spammed and spammed and spammed until every single damned board started blanket banning your asses in simple self defence
We didn't want you.
We didn't invite you.
When told we weren't interested you kept slamming it in our faces every day, whether we wanted to hear it or not.
We started banning you and more came.
You abused your "freedom of speech" and considered ours to be "we will tell you what you want to say"....and even then you did not listen when we said STOP.
We said ENOUGH.
And you would still just not shut the fuck up and go away.
Thank you SO MUCH for alienating so many of our community and for making the lives of admins and members hell all over the Net with your incessant posturing and postwhoring and "conversions"...the RP campaign became a joke and its fans branded as obsessed fanatics who, even when asked to leave, stayed and harassed other members.
We have recognized that the people responsible for destroying conservative credibility are in fact current party leaders, a.k.a. the powers that be....a.k.a. the people whom you support.
You and yours destroyed this community and many others, all for the sake of your misbegotten "candidate".
Did you know that even on Australian blogs, RP supporters and their mass spamming resulted in a MASSIVE blanket ban? They didnt want a bar of you
You've got it all wrong. RP's supporters will be remembered for attempting to bring freedom of choice back into an America where freedom of choice has been surrendered to the political party in power.
We know what your message is. We have had it jammed up every orifice every day of every week for months.Remember?
Or do you plan on playing this fucking broken record ad nauseam for another six months?
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gatorGuest06-20-2008, 09:56 AM
I went ahead and voted for Paul for two reasons.
First if we don't get spending under control our economy is going to tank big time and the War on Terror will be the least of our problems.
Second, voting for Paul was a good protest vote against the Republicans. If enough people had done it then the message would have been loud and clear. As it was the 1.1 million that voted for Paul ws not a strong message because a fracken Liberal wound up as the nominee.
SonnabendGuest06-20-2008, 10:01 AM
So why dont you run.
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