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  1. #1 Republicans Ponder Path to Renewal After Party Suffers a Harsh Setback 
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    The Republican Party begins debating its future Thursday in Virginia, where a group of leading conservatives will meet to discuss how to rebuild their movement. Party governors continue the conversation at a meeting next week in Miami.

    Thus begins a battle for the soul of a party whose coalition has been fractured by war and economic turmoil after nearly three decades of electoral success.

    Key pieces of the longstanding Republican coalition of economic and social conservatives, culture-war soldiers and national-security hawks showed severe stress fractures during the long election, and leaders from different wings are now vying for party leadership.

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    An interesting article. Can and will the Republicans rebuild? What will they rebuild as? I heard a mention this morning that Republican turnout yesterday was a record low. I haven't found anything to back that up yet, but I'm still looking. If it's true, I think this may be the final coffin nail for a conservative Republican party. I know most folks around here were not real big on McCain, most of the conservative pundits weren't either. Is the time right for a mass exodus of conservatives from the party to either create something new or bolster a present third party up into a serious contender? Or am I just insanely disappointed in the entire system right now and both possibilities offer a light at the end of the tunnel?
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    I think McCain's loss and the loss of congressional seats is the light at the end of the tunnel. I've read that it was mostly "moderates" who lost their seats, the so-called "hard core" conservatives held on.

    It sounds to me like the conservatives are sending a very clear message to the party - get back to your principles. From what I'm reading and hearing this morning - they're finally listening.

    And I think after 4 years of liberals running the show, in 2012 the country will be primed for the next conservative revolution. Now we just have to find the right leaders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eilise View Post
    I think McCain's loss and the loss of congressional seats is the light at the end of the tunnel. I've read that it was mostly "moderates" who lost their seats, the so-called "hard core" conservatives held on.

    It sounds to me like the conservatives are sending a very clear message to the party - get back to your principles. From what I'm reading and hearing this morning - they're finally listening.

    And I think after 4 years of liberals running the show, in 2012 the country will be primed for the next conservative revolution. Now we just have to find the right leaders.
    I think is probably pretty much true. Republicans never seem to lose with real conservative candidates but they always seem to fail eventually with RINOs. The whole idea of bipartisan politics is vaguely disturbing to me. I've never seen an example where liberal politicians put their own values aside and support a conservative position but I've seen the reverse more than once.

    Let's see if the Republicans can do some housecleaning now.
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    Eilise...I couldn't agree with you more. Enslaved1 raises some interesting questions, but the republican party can rebuild itself if it goes back to its original principles. I have not seen much success with moderates for the republican party. The GOP leadership wasn't listening to the base and it had to take the election of a socialist in order to get them to wake up. You can't please everyone and that's what RINO's try to do and it ends up failing at the end...at least for conservatives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingersnap View Post
    I think is probably pretty much true. Republicans never seem to lose with real conservative candidates but they always seem to fail eventually with RINOs. The whole idea of bipartisan politics is vaguely disturbing to me. I've never seen an example where liberal politicians put their own values aside and support a conservative position but I've seen the reverse more than once.

    Let's see if the Republicans can do some housecleaning now.
    Don't you remember Goldwater? Most conservative nominee in decades and he got trounced.

    It's not that they have to nominate the most conservative guy, they just need to start following their platform of smaller government, free markets and "values".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldwater View Post
    Don't you remember Goldwater? Most conservative nominee in decades and he got trounced.

    It's not that they have to nominate the most conservative guy, they just need to start following their platform of smaller government, free markets and "values".

    True, but probably the next most conservative was Reagan. Many intangibles for sure, but "how the party should rebuild" is clear as a bell. CONSERVATIVE, smaller gov, cut spending, reduce, not increase. This is crystal clear, but they get up there in cushy-land and lose perspective. They're outta touch to say the least. The fact they're having problems with this is proof.
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