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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    Not nearly as big a f. up as Obama stating there are 57 states in the US. This stupid Negro does not know how many states are in his own country.

    Not only that, but this is simply accusations from the same people who keep telling us we need to nominate moderates to win elections.

    Unfounded and baseless.
    I long for the days when our President actually liked our country.
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    Let's add some context to the Carl Cameron and Newsweek airing of rumors from anonymous McCain/Palin staffers. The most controversial claims, all of which come without names attached because the purveyors are apparently determined to stick around to undermine future campaigns and candidates, are that Palin didn't know that Africa was a continent as opposed to a country, and that she didn't know who the members of NAFTA were.

    Let's start with NAFTA. If folks want to believe Gov. Sarah Palin did not know even the most basic facts about NAFTA, they have to believe a couple other improbable things.

    Before she became governor, Palin's husband Todd's commercial fishing business on Bristol Bay accounted a decent percentage of the family's income. The couple reported about $46,000 from the business last year on a license Todd purchased from his grandfather in the 1970s. He has been a lifelong commercial fisherman and she has often been his partner both in the business and literally on the boat.


    Surely while the two were working in the commercial salmon fishing industry in post-NAFTA Alaska, they would not have missed the effect farmed-salmon imports from Canada had on the industry, causing the number of fisherman, the size of the harvest, and the value of permits to go down significantly in Alaska. According to a 2003 AP article:
    "This loss of equity, which for self-employed fishermen is equivalent to retirement accounts, will continue to reverberate throughout the Alaska economy in coming years," Gilbertsen said.
    The economic losses have ricocheted through coastal communities as fewer fishermen have caused a decline in both crews and shore-based services. Monthly employment in the state's seafood processing industry fell from 11,200 in 1992 to 7,400 in 2002.
    Chile and Canada are the two major suppliers to the U.S. market of farm-raised salmon. The two countries accounted for 94 percent of the Atlantic pen-reared salmon, valued at $818 million.
    Canada is a partner in the North American Free Trade Agreement, which removed certain trade barriers, and Chile has fewer environmental regulations and cheap labor, the analysis showed.
    "The fact that Canada is a NAFTA partner, and that the U.S. has just approved a bilateral free trade agreement with Chile, would seem to indicate that these imports will continue to grow," Gilbertsen said.
    So, let's say for argument's sake the couple missed that bit of information. They would also have had to miss the fact that in 2002, the federal government decided to make commercial salmon fisherman on Alaska's Bristol Bay eligible for Trade Adjustment Assistance under the North American Free Trade Agreement due to the impact Canada's farmed-salmon had on the industry. From a 2002 AP brief:
    The U.S. Department of Labor has certified about 200 commercial salmon fishermen in the Bristol Bay area as eligible to apply for transitional adjustment assistance under the North American Free Trade Agreement.
    The certifications cover Sept. 5, 2001, to Nov. 25, 2004. Workers laid off or reduced to part-time work during that time may be eligible for extra benefits and services.
    The Labor Department found that major customers for Bristol Bay salmon increased their reliance on imports of salmon from Canada, adversely affecting fishermen.
    NAFTA authorizes assistance to cover workers affected because of increased imports from Mexico or Canada or shifts in production to those countries.
    After they are certified as eligible, workers may apply for benefits at a state employment service office. They may receive retraining services, career counseling, job placement assistance and income support.
    On the flip side of the coin, Canada is within the top three of Alaska's trading partners, a position it moved into in the increased trade years after NAFTA was passed. It's a huge market for seafood and metals mined in Alaska.
    Disgruntled McCain staffers not only require you to believe that the chief executive of the state of Alaska knew nothing about one of her state's most important trading partners, but that she was equally oblivious to the economic winds affecting the industry that provided her very own livelihood. Perhaps they should head to the NYT next, which has a history of employing anyone who has a penchant for writing slam books about Republicans.

    This accusation didn't pass the smell test to begin with, but because McCain staffers are requiring us to defend our popular former vice presidential nominee against NYT-like attacks, there are some facts to consider.


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    The 21st century. The age of Smart phones and Stupid people.

    It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.
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    No no zues. You can't confuse the issue with facts. The press hates her. McCains left leaning staff hate her. The rino's and republican elites hate her - so it MUST be true.

    This just goes to show how stupid the political class see the rest of us. I knew it was bad on the left - but I guess I blinded myself about how much the republican political class feels the same way. Once again, it's time to call for term limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    No no zues. You can't confuse the issue with facts. The press hates her. McCains left leaning staff hate her. The rino's and republican elites hate her - so it MUST be true.

    This just goes to show how stupid the political class see the rest of us. I knew it was bad on the left - but I guess I blinded myself about how much the republican political class feels the same way. Once again, it's time to call for term limits.
    I don't think term limits is the answer. That's akin to throwing the baby out with the bath water.

    Accountability is the problem. seldom is anyone in politics or the press held accountable for actions or statements known to be lies or just plain ol undesirable for the masses. WE THE PEOPLE already have the power to correct that. Do WE THE PEOPLE have the fortitude to do so is the question. People get away with what others let them get away with and letting them do so signals approval for them to do more of the same. It's time to send out some stop signals.
    The 21st century. The age of Smart phones and Stupid people.

    It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.
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    It's either the sore losers from the Mccain camp pointing their MAN fingers at the woman and blaming her ... OR ... it's people from Romneys camp who know that Palin is very popular with the base and so they are trying to discredit her now so that their guy Romney will have a clear shot in 2012 (well... clear except that Crist is a better choice :D )
    If leftists didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyOldLady View Post
    It's either the sore losers from the Mccain camp pointing their MAN fingers at the woman and blaming her ... OR ... it's people from Romneys camp who know that Palin is very popular with the base and so they are trying to discredit her now so that their guy Romney will have a clear shot in 2012 (well... clear except that Crist is a better choice :D )
    I don't think it was any other politicians per se ie Romney,Clinton etc. My guess it was just dishonorable professional campaign advisor's/workers trying to maintain employability by passing the buck.
    The 21st century. The age of Smart phones and Stupid people.

    It is said that branches draw their life from the vine. Each is separate yet all are one as they share one life giving stem . The Bible tells us we are called to a similar union in life, our lives with the life of God. We are incorporated into him; made sharers in his life. Apart from this union we can do nothing.
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    Lack of political knowledge? Tantrums? Spending Sprees?

    Lets put it more simply...

    SHE IS A WOMAN!

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    **** Obama and **** you too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMBA View Post
    Lack of political knowledge? Tantrums? Spending Sprees?

    Lets put it more simply...

    SHE IS A WOMAN!

    :eek::D
    Thank god men never throw temper fits or buy $8000 lawn tractors or $40,000 convertibles they don't need.
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    In actual dollars, President Obama’s $4.4 trillion in deficit spending in just three years is 37 percent higher than the previous record of $3.2 trillion (held by President George W. Bush) in deficit spending for an entire presidency. It’s no small feat to demolish an 8-year record in just 3 years.

    Under Obama’s own projections, interest payments on the debt are on course to triple from 2010 (his first budgetary year) to 2018, climbing from $196 billion to $685 billion annually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlMBA View Post
    Lack of political knowledge? Tantrums? Spending Sprees?

    Lets put it more simply...

    SHE IS A WOMAN!

    :eek::D
    I hope you meant that saracastically.

    In all seriousness, these attacks on Palin are gendered and were, I think, planned that way. They used her this election cycle but the GOP doesn't want her to get any ideas, so they are trashing her character along gendered lines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    I'm getting flamed for posting a Fox News clip on a conservative site. Hell must have frozen over.

    :D
    No...you're gettin "flamed" for bein the asshole ya always are....
    We know how much of a hard on ya have for Sarah...
    Say what ya mean and get to the point quick....I don't have the attention span to listen to bullshit...

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