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    Lovely late summer day in Washington; sunny and in the seventies today.

    By now, everyone has dealt with the Tuesday election results and decided if they're going to get on with life or seethe for four years.

    I think we can all agree that the Republican Party needs some restructuring. TOTD: What does it need? In what way should it "re-create" itself? Alternatively, if you think the GOP is past it, what would you like to see rise to take its place?
    "Today, [the American voter] chooses his rulers as he buys bootleg whiskey, never knowing precisely what he is getting, only certain that it is not what it pretends to be." - H.L. Mencken
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    (bumping up) - nobody knows?
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    "Today, [the American voter] chooses his rulers as he buys bootleg whiskey, never knowing precisely what he is getting, only certain that it is not what it pretends to be." - H.L. Mencken
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    It's clear and chilly out here but we probably have snow on the way for this weekend at some point.

    TOTD: I'm not a Republican and so I don't have any particularly penetrating insights into how they should attempt to restructure the party (at least in any detailed way). I do think that they would do well to return to conservative principles, though. Most people have no trouble understanding or relating to conservative principles. After all, it's how virtual all independent adults organize their own lives. Live within (or below) your means, assume personal responsibility, distinguish between tolerance and support, respect the rule of law, and avoid government interference as much as humanly possible. That would be a winning strategy for them. ;)
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    Sunny, somewhat cloudy out, but cool. Had to do some car-work this morning (changed out my failing car battery myself, something I hadn't done myself in YEARS) and glanced at the TOTD earlier.

    TOTD: Yeah, what Ginger said. Sounds just fine to me.
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    Clear and warm - could see the Casino at Avalon from the mainland this morning.:)

    TOTD: Hate to drag out the old Navy analogy, but the 'Party of the Red States' is a tired, old and terribly beat up battle wagon. Extremely thick and heavy hull, slow turning and sluggish,and it got pecked to death by a party that was younger, quicker, better looking, and of the new century.

    FDR let his capital ships get sent to the bottom of Pearl because the youngest had a keel that was laid in 1928. He knew the time of the big cannon platform was over - an anachronism.

    Time to upgrade the program. Not saying the President-to-be might just be style, with no substance, but the RNC needs to find something/someone that’s dynamic - with a bit more wattage than a refrigerator light.
    At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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    It wouldn't hurt for the GOP to become more diverse, racially and as far as religion goes. There are more black conservatives out there than one might think.

    They shouldn't have given up on Detroit, and next year's mayor's race. I can think of two local republicans that could run-even if they lose to Dave Bing, they can still establish the idea of republicans in city government-Rev. Keith Butler was the last republican on the city council and that was at least a decade ago. Jeffrey Collins, a former judge and Bush's pick for US Attorney for this area, is a particularly good candidate. Bill Brooks, a former GM executive (from when they were still making money) is another good candidate, because he has the guts to talk about poverty and it's effects on Detroit.

    I like Collins for the way he handled a particular case when he was a judge in Detroit Recorder's Court. A man brandishing a crowbar chased a woman on the Belle Isle Bridge and she, in panic, jumped off the bridge to her death. This was in reaction to a minor fender bender in which the woman was at fault. Two bystanders jumped in after her, but between the river current, her panic, and her inability to swim, they couldn't find her in the water nor could they help her in any way.

    The prosecutor went for second degree murder. The defense claimed that because there were traces of THC and PCP in the dead woman's blood system, that she overreacted to the threat. Judge Collins shot that down, and gave the guy a sentence of at least 18 years for valuing a car over a human being. I loved him for that, and I think most of the women in Detroit would feel similarly, if they were reminded of the case.

    I can think of two rather conservative black churches (Straight Gate on Grand River and The Perfecting Church on Van Dyke) in Detroit where although most of the members vote democratic, they might not if given another option-black conservative politicians to vote for.

    As a liberal, though, it's not really in my best interests to give any helpful advice to conservative republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    (bumoing up) - nobody knows?

    Did you mean - bumping!? You need to learn to spell! :D

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    Thanks. I need to be at my fullsize keyboard, in order to be able to see the keys! :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by linda22003 View Post
    Thanks. I need to be at my fullsize keyboard, in order to be able to see the keys! :p

    Like this?

    At Coretta Scott King's funeral in early 2006, Ethel Kennedy, the widow of Robert Kennedy, leaned over to him and whispered, "The torch is being passed to you." "A chill went up my spine," Obama told an aide. (Newsweek)
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    I don't know. It's a very tiny picture. :p
    "Today, [the American voter] chooses his rulers as he buys bootleg whiskey, never knowing precisely what he is getting, only certain that it is not what it pretends to be." - H.L. Mencken
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