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    If you knew anything about elections and polling, you would know that this is premature.

    If this country is truly ready for a major change from Bush and Republican's in general, then Obama will win. however; in my experience and studies, a minority has a very tough road in American politics especially when that minority is running a national election in the Democratic party. Until that is proven wrong for me, I'll wager McCain will probably be your president.

    It doesn't really matter to me...the fact that the Democrats nominated a man who speaks in advertising slogans and like Obama and the the Republican's nominated an unstable Liberal chowderhead as their nominee....We get what we deserve come this November
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    Polls are artificial snapshots originally designed to show here actions needed to be taken by candidates. Now they are used as "news" because the fourth estate is too lazy to actually do their job.

    Eyelids, you are exactly the type of sheep that the news media loves because you actually hang on every word, print or spoken, that they feed you. To say that BHO is going to win based on questionable polling practices shows a mind that is immature at best, and downright stupid at the worst. Remember Saddam had polling data that showed him with 100% approval ratings, where did it get him?:D
     

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    Obama is in deep shit. After Hillary decided to hang it up, according to pollsters Obama should have gotten a typical bounce of 12%; he only got 7%. The graph and the chart showing the states dispute themselves in the case of VA. The chart of all of the states show that McCain is likely to win VA. Several other disturbing facts on that chart is that Obama is not a shoo in to win all of the northeaster states. I think McCain will win PA and have a shot at NJ and NY.
     

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    As a Virginian, I think it's going to be a "purple" state this year, and I'll be voting purple myself - as things stand now (who knows if they'll change) it will be R for President, D for Senate, and R for House.
     

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    Oh NOES!!111

    Wow, how did those polls work out in 04?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skygod View Post
    Oh NOES!!111

    Wow, how did those polls work out in 04?


    Exactly. Not even the most optimistic Democrat would have dreamed that they would gain enough seats last election to take back a majority in the Senate.

    Not a fan of Ron Paul but did we not hear the pollsters state that he was in trouble with his congressional seat in TX. He won very convincingly. That's why I say polls are full of crap.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    And doesn't that just make you so happy? Think your map is a bit off. Heard on an NBC show yesterday (not exactly the McCain Support Network) that Obama might not even spend too much of his campaign dollars in Florida, as he's too far behind.
    The polling numbers aren't really indicative of that, but I completely agree. Obama is not going to win FL, and really shouldnt even try.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacarnut View Post
    Obama is in deep shit. After Hillary decided to hang it up, according to pollsters Obama should have gotten a typical bounce of 12%; he only got 7%. The graph and the chart showing the states dispute themselves in the case of VA. The chart of all of the states show that McCain is likely to win VA. Several other disturbing facts on that chart is that Obama is not a shoo in to win all of the northeaster states. I think McCain will win PA and have a shot at NJ and NY.
    McCain got a bump of about 4%, people aren't participating in partisan politics anymore. And I'll post this again, maybe you guys just forgot to read it:

    Obama doesnt need FL, if Obama wins all the Kerry states plus NM, CO and IA (he is polling very well in all 3 of those states) and loses NH its a tie and goes to the Democrat controlled House of Representatives. I wonder who they'll pick?

    Since 2/24 there have been 13 polls in PA, of which Obama leads 10 by margins of 7% on average. Theres a guy does this stuff based purely off poll #'s and has Obama at a 76% chance of winning PA.

    Ohio is a toss up right now, any discrepancy is pretty much statistical noise even though you might get the impression Obama is starting to catch up (the unity bounce has yet to be really looked at OH, as there have been no polls conducted since Hillary's departure).

    And Obama cant win the South?
    Most recent Rasmussen poll of MI has Obama up by 3.
    McCain is still comfortably ahead in LA, but over the past 2 months his lead has been cut in half.
    Missouri is a tie, there are two recent polls with McCain by 1 and 2 percent and a third with Obama by 3. Again, statistical noise.

    And incumbent Democrats are aligning with Obama without hesitation, hell the DNC even implented all of his campaign policies from the primaries after Clinton dropped out.

    Obama has all of the Kerry states in the bag , he'll have to work a bit to ensure PA stays blue but with Clinton on the trail he can push the right buttons there. Obama has support spread across the entire country, and the GOP cannot compete with his resources. Obama wins the battle of atrition every time, even with Rev. Wright the Republicans couldn't establish a wedge issue.

    Its over. Obama is your next president, better start cozying up to that.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molon Labe View Post
    If you knew anything about elections and polling, you would know that this is premature.
    Polls dont predict, you can use models and projections to get a grasp of what might happen but polls are just a snapshot. I'm fully aware of this, but to discard them as worthless simply because you don't like what they're indicating is really pathetic.
     

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    Its over. Obama is your next president, better start cozying up to that.

    President Hussein Obama, has a nice middle eastern twang to it. It'll never happen.

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