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  1. #1 Obama Recalls All Aircraft Carriers, Setting Up U.S. For Attack 
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    Obama Recalls All Aircraft Carriers, Setting Up U.S. For Attack
    http://yournewswire.com/obama-recall...raft-carriers/

    Barack Obama has recalled all 10 U.S. Navy Aircraft Carriers from the Middle East, leaving the United States wide open to a potential attack.

    For the next week, there will be no aircraft carriers stationed anywhere in the world for the first time since World War II.

    Obama Setting-Us-Up for Attack Upon U.S.A. - ALL AIRCRAFT CARRIERS NOW IN PORT - NONE AT SEA, ANYWHERE
    https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/world/2800

    It appears the U.S. has been set-up by our own government to be attacked. All 10 U.S. Navy Aircraft Carriers are "in-port" for the next week! NO CARRIER is operating anywhere in the world! We're sitting ducks.

    For the next week, not only will there be no U.S. Navy aircraft carrier in the Middle East, but there will be no American aircraft carriers deployed at sea anywhere else in the world, despite a host of worldwide threats facing the United States.

    The carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower and her strike group returned to Norfolk, Va., Friday following a seven-month deployment. The Ike launched hundreds of airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq and Syria from both the Mediterranean Sea and the Persian Gulf.

    Two destroyers in the Ike’s strike group also saw combat. The USS Nitze and USS Mason were attacked in the Red Sea when Iranian backed Houthi forces in Yemen launched cruise missiles, which were intercepted by the Mason. A retaliatory strike by the Nitze destroyed the radar installations in Yemen in October.

    The Eisenhower’s replacement carrier, the USS George H.W. Bush, was delayed by more than six months in the shipyards and will not be able to replace the Ike until early next year, according to Navy officials.

    While there is no U.S. aircraft carrier in the Middle East right now, there is a large deck U.S. Navy amphibious assault ship with thousands of Marines on board as well as helicopters and some jets to respond to a crisis, according to officials.
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    Might it have to do with this to show U.S. weakness ?

    China navy confirms carrier conducted drills in South China Sea

    China's sole aircraft carrier conducted drills in the South China Sea, the navy said, days after neighboring Taiwan said the carrier and accompanying ships had passed 90 nautical miles south of the island amid renewed tension between the two sides.

    The Soviet-built Liaoning aircraft carrier and accompanying warships sailed round the east coast of Taiwan in what China called a routine exercise complying with international law.

    The carrier's J-15 fighters conducted flight exercises in "complex sea conditions" on Monday, the People's Liberation Army Navy said on its official microblog late the same day.

    The carrier group also ran helicopter exercises, it said, but did not give details on the exact location.
    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/02/china...china-sea.html
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    Actually, it's due to previous heavy deployment, normal rotation, and a maintenance delay on the USS G. H. W. Bush. Also, a new catapult system with teething problems has evidently delayed the commissioning of the USS Gerald Ford into 2017.

    Before jumping to conspiracy-theory conclusions, look for simpler, more mundane, explanations.
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    SVPete you are probably right.

    However, if that is correct, I'm surprised the article didn't state that another group of ships were on there way to take the place of the returning ships. In fact, I would think that the MSM would be all over the article if other ships were being sent to that area. It would be a great headline to shout about as "fake news" about Obama's weakening the U.S. military

    The G.W Bush was completed in 2009. It has been in its home port Norfolk more than it has been at sea. It left Norfolk in July 2016 after a 13 month planned incremental availability (PIA). I assume that to mean upgrades and fixing stuff that doesn't work. It was to Noconduct sea trials in collaboration with the shipyard to ensure the ship equipment and systems are up to par. While at sea, equipment that supports surface operations, flight deck evolutions and damage control will all be tested and evaluated. After 7 years ? This information is from 2016 ! Are you saying there is another maintenance delay?

    USS Gerald R. Ford:

    On 10 September 2008, the U.S. Navy signed a $5.1 billion contract with Northrop Grumman Shipbuilding in Newport News, Virginia, to design and construct the carrier. Northrop had begun advance construction of the carrier under a $2.7 billion contract in 2005. The carrier is

    As of 2013, construction costs were estimated at $12.8 billion, 22% over the 2008 budget, plus $4.7 billion in research and development costs. Because of budget difficulties, the Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral Jonathan Greenert, has warned there may be a two-year delay beyond 2016 in completing Gerald R. Ford. The GAO reports that the price cap will be met by the Navy accepting an incomplete ship for that cost.

    On 23 September 2015, the Navy announced that several weeks of testing delays will likely slip the delivery date into April or May 2016. In addition, construction was 93% complete as of September 2015.

    In July 2016, a memo was obtained by CNN from Michael Gilmore, the US Department of Defense's Director of Operational Testing and Evaluation indicating that problems with four major flight systems would further delay combat readiness of the ship.The ship was not expected to be delivered until November 2016 and these issues were suggested to further delay that goal. Construction of the ship is described as 98% complete, with 88% of testing finished.

    The USS Gerald R. Ford these performance enhancers have proven problematic in Pentagon tests. In January, 2014, the annual Director, Operational Test and Evaluation (DOT&E) report said that critical ship systems including the EMALS, Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG), Dual Band Radar, and weapons elevators were not reliable enough and needed more testing and improvements. EMALS testing recorded 201 launch failures out of 1,967 launches, equaling a reliability rate of 240 mean cycles (launching of one aircraft) between critical failures. Testing of the AAG recorded 9 arresting failures out of 71 attempts, equaling a reliability rate of 20 mean cycles (recovery of one aircraft) between operational mission failure, a failure rate 248 times higher than should be expected. Those systems performed at a fraction of their requirements for shipboard configurations, and even less of required standards. Radar and weapons elevator test data was not made available, but were also below expectations. The Navy maintains that further testing will resolve the problems. Tests also showed that the launching and landing systems on Gerald R. Ford would place extra stress on aircraft with external fuel tanks.Gerald R. Ford is projected to be able to generate 30 percent more sorties than Nimitz-class carriers, but the DOT&E report claims that is too optimistic, though the Navy also maintains that assumption based on modeling and simulations. Gerald R. Ford is planned to complete Initial Operational Test & Evaluation in 2017 before entering service
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    So this ship has been in construction since 2005 ? I believe that is 11 years ! This piece of junk is going to replace what, where and when.? If Wikipedia is even half correct it doesn't appear to have even started sea trials!

    What would have happened if the U.S. Navy took this long to build ships to fight in the Pacific during WWII ?

    Perhaps the ships were pulled out because we don't have anything operational enough to take their place.

    The families of the crews on the returning ships should be happy Obama didn't extend their tour.

    There is indeed a conspiracy. The government is conspiring to keep the truth about how lousy the contractors who are building these ships are and how much money is being wasted for ships that don't work.

    The Littoral Combat Ship

    "The U.S. Navy shouldn't spend any more money on the Littoral Combat Ship, a vessel designed to be small and speedy in shallow waters close to shore, because it's unclear if it has enough firepower or can even survive in combat, according to the government's top watchdog agency.

    A Government Accountability Office (GAO) study released recently concluded that the "actual lethality and survivability performance of LCS is still largely unproven through realistic testing," even though 24 ships have already been built or are under construction.

    The LCS uses an aluminum alloy that's unlike any used in other Navy ships, cutting the ship's weight to increase its speed. However, aluminum loses its strength faster than steel at high temperatures. The GAO states that while the Navy has identified the flaw and conducted tests, the service lacks enough data on how fire or underwater explosions might affect the ship's hull, and won't have the information until 2018.

    "The vulnerability of the ship's hull to various sea conditions also remains unknown," the report said. "Due to the dynamic nature of waves, the Navy cannot rely on modeling and simulation alone to provide an accurate assessment of a ship's performance in rough seas.
    http://theweek.com/articles/596782/n...ew-combat-ship

    http://www.conservativeunderground.c...al+combat+ship

    In the first three days after the vaunted littoral combat ship (LCS) USS Montgomery was commissioned the warship suffered two engine casualties threatening to delay a pinnacle component to America’s naval superiority strategy.The Navy’s newest littoral combat ship suffered consecutive engine casualties in the first three days following its commissioning ceremony forcing the ship to abandon its transit to San Diego and return to Florida for emergency repairs.

    The USS Montgomery (LCS-8) became the third littoral combat ship in three weeks to suffer major engine failures calling into question the viability of the expensive program of half-billion dollar battleships that has been a pinnacle of the US Navy’s offensive military strategy in recent years
    Read more: https://sputniknews.com/military/201...ip-montgomery/


    Y-35

    (Courtesy of Lockheed Martin)
    The Pentagon has established a "red team" to address considerable shortcomings with the F-35C, the carrier-based naval variant of the most expensive weapons project in history.

    The F-35, subject to cost overruns and delays throughout its production, reached an initial state of military readiness with its Air Force and Marine variants in 2016, but the Navy's variant lags behind in part due to an issue with its nose gear during catapult-assisted takeoffs from aircraft carriers, Inside Defense uncovered on Wednesday.

    Essentially the problem, detailed in a Navy report with data dating back to 2014, deals with rough takeoffs that hurt and disorient pilots at the critical moment when they're taking off from a carrier.

    The Pentagon's red team found the problem was due to several factors central to the plane's design, and recommended several fixes that will take several months to several years to fully fix. The report states that long term actions to address the problem will not take place until 2019, at which point they'll take 12-36 months to implement. Redesigns to the plane, as well as to carriers, may be necessary to fully address the problem
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-e...202413449.html


    I don't consider these circumstances mundane
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    One of the stupidest things the military too often does is try to telescope schedules by dumping multiple immature new technologies into a production product. Too often it causes great delay and sometimes even costs lives. The USS Gerald R. Ford was supposed to be the next class of CVN, and update to the Nimitz class CVN much as the Essex Class CV was an update to the Yorktown Class CV.

    The same kind of @#$% is happening to and plaguing the F-35. The LCS is somebody's hobby-horse vision of a future that never will be; instead of shooting it, someone decided to build and ride that hobby-horse. Unsurprisingly, it's a multi-billion-$$ POS.

    But the travails and failures of the Ford, F-35, and LCS are "out there", in public. I see stories about both periodically on Drudge, who does almost no original material. If it's on Drudge, it's publicly available information. So if there's a conspiracy-of-silence about these, they're some of the leakiest, noisiest conspiracies-of-silence in the history of mankind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SVPete View Post
    Actually, it's due to previous heavy deployment, normal rotation, and a maintenance delay on the USS G. H. W. Bush. Also, a new catapult system with teething problems has evidently delayed the commissioning of the USS Gerald Ford into 2017.

    Before jumping to conspiracy-theory conclusions, look for simpler, more mundane, explanations.
    The articles do not say that Obama intends to open the US up to attack. That would be a conspiracy theory. The article merely points out that whatever is going on, the US has been left temporarily vulnerable.

    And once again, you read the thread. More serious threads get ignored over and over. It's fun to watch you take the bait.
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