#1 “If Barack Obama can prove he's a natural-born citizen, we’ll go away.
11-18-2008, 06:02 PM
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Buena Park pastor files suit to keep Obama from taking office
Suit filed in Sacramento seeks to force president-elect to show better proof of citizenship.
A Buena Park pastor and vice-presidential candidate noted for his politics from the pulpit is a party to a lawsuit seeking to keep President-elect Barack Obama from taking office.
The lawsuit claims Obama has not provided sufficient proof he is a U.S. citizen, and asks that Secretary of State Debra Bowen not certify California's election results until he provides more concrete evidence.
Wiley Drake, pastor of the First Southern Baptist Church of Buena Park, is named as a plaintiff, as is Alan Keyes. Drake ran for vice president on the American Independent ticket with Keyes, who got the presidential nod.
“We want the truth,” Drake said. “If Barack Obama can prove he's a natural-born citizen, we’ll go away. If not, we won't go away.”
Drake said he and his attorneys have an audiotape of Obama's grandmother describing how she witnessed his birth in Kenya.
“We have what we think is pretty strong evidence that Barack Obama is not natural born,” Drake said.
Obama’s birth certificate says he was born in Honolulu, but the lawsuit claims that is insufficient evidence because the certificate does not list a doctor or a hospital.
Hawaii state officials have said Obama’s birth certificate is genuine.
The suit alleges Bowen certified Obama as a candidate in California after “accepting a signed statement … with no verification demanded.” It was filed last week in Sacramento County Superior Court.
11-18-2008, 06:06 PM
there is something shady here. Why won'ty he just show it? Did Barry have a sex change or something?Stand up for what is right, even if you have to stand alone.
11-18-2008, 07:07 PM
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If he has nothing to hide, then he should show proof.Better to die on your feet, than to live on your knee's
11-19-2008, 12:22 PM
This is not going to go anywhere, and those who are filing all this are going to end up looking stupid, desperate, partisan and, maybe even racist, in some media outlets.
Obama has posted his birth certificate on websites. He has produced it. It says he was born in Hawaii.
How many people his age still have the copy that their parents got at the time? I don't. K-Mart has it somewhere in their personnel files, because they never gave it back to me. I sent to Indiana for a new one, and it doesn't look anything like the original (which had thick, black paper with white printing). It looks like the standardized birth certificate format all states are using now.
Even though I'm not a conservative, I think this type of an issue is a distraction from the conservative agenda in Washington, and that's why the GOP hasn't jumped into the legal battle.
11-19-2008, 12:27 PM
He has provided a Certificate of Live Birth. Not the same as a Birth Certificate.
If he has one, why did he post a clear forgery on his website?
rm -rf obama*
11-19-2008, 01:57 PM
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We're in 'good shape' over Obama's birthplace
The Bush Presidential spokeswoman suggests there's no controversy
President Bush doesn't have a significant level of concern over allegations, including those pending before the U.S. Supreme Court, that Barack Obama does not meet the constitutional requirements to be commander in chief in the United States.
"Does the White House believe there is no question at all about the birthplace, and thus the required U.S. citizenship of the president-elect?" Les Kinsolving, WND's correspondent at the White House, asked at a news briefing today.
"I think we're in good shape on that," responded Dana Perino, the spokeswoman for the president.
"What in Hell does thay mean ?"
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists as he stated, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro, has named two different Hawaii hospitals where Obama could have been born, but there have been suggestions he actually was born in Kenya.
The Keyes action challenges: "Should Senator Obama be discovered, after he takes office, to be ineligible for the Office of President of the United States of America and, thereby, his election declared void, Petitioners, as well as other Americans, will suffer irreparable harm in that (a) usurper will be sitting as the President of the United States, and none of the treaties, laws, or executive orders signed by him will be valid or legal."
"One possability is that money man George Soros wants a Constitution Crisis leading to an armed rebelion in order to destroy America !"
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