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  1. #1 An interesting look at EBT cards 
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    In Connecticut EBT cards can be used in strip clubs.
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    EBT cards were supposed to stop food stamp fraud. It used to be that someone had to send their kids in with food stamps to make a bunch of legal purchases and then come in with all the change to buy cigarettes or booze. They at least had to put some thought into it.

    I don't think that they can buy cigarettes with the EBT cards, but I know the stores are not preventing them from buying alcohol with them. A bar should not be able to accept the cards, titty bar or regular bar. I don't think people should be able to use them in restaurants, it's too expensive to eat out. $20 of food from WalMart will go a lot further than $20 of food from McDonalds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    EBT cards were supposed to stop food stamp fraud. It used to be that someone had to send their kids in with food stamps to make a bunch of legal purchases and then come in with all the change to buy cigarettes or booze. They at least had to put some thought into it.

    I don't think that they can buy cigarettes with the EBT cards, but I know the stores are not preventing them from buying alcohol with them. A bar should not be able to accept the cards, titty bar or regular bar. I don't think people should be able to use them in restaurants, it's too expensive to eat out. $20 of food from WalMart will go a lot further than $20 of food from McDonalds.
    Agree with you on this. Noonwitch, wonder if you have the answer to this. A neighbor was talking about someone they knew who was trying to get SS disability because they are an alcoholic. They said the person doesn't work, has lost many jobs, has no desire to sober up, but say that it's a disease and they want to be supported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    Agree with you on this. Noonwitch, wonder if you have the answer to this. A neighbor was talking about someone they knew who was trying to get SS disability because they are an alcoholic. They said the person doesn't work, has lost many jobs, has no desire to sober up, but say that it's a disease and they want to be supported.
    He can probably get it once he gets cirrhosis, but probably not for alcoholism itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    Agree with you on this. Noonwitch, wonder if you have the answer to this. A neighbor was talking about someone they knew who was trying to get SS disability because they are an alcoholic. They said the person doesn't work, has lost many jobs, has no desire to sober up, but say that it's a disease and they want to be supported.
    Simple solution. Open EBT stores and make it so that is the only place you can use those cards like department store cards. This way you can regulate what can be purchased with those cards. Problem solved.
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    EBT cards are too big a business for any food store chain or even a local food store to cede to an EBT only store.

    Besides, who would run it ? Another government agency ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banacek View Post
    EBT cards are too big a business for any food store chain or even a local food store to cede to an EBT only store.

    Besides, who would run it ? Another government agency ?
    Good points.
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    In Connecticut EBT cards can be used in strip clubs.
    In CA there was a mini-scandal about people being able to use EBT cards at ATMs in casinos. The State of CA had made arrangements with one or more ATM network operators for their machines to accept EBT cards. Apparently no one in the state agency thought to ask to look at a list of ATM machine locations, as some were in casinos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banacek View Post
    EBT cards are too big a business for any food store chain or even a local food store to cede to an EBT only store.

    Besides, who would run it ? Another government agency ?
    Yes. The Dept of Agriculture which is who runs the food stamp program. But, yes, let the government run it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banacek View Post
    EBT cards are too big a business for any food store chain or even a local food store to cede to an EBT only store.

    Besides, who would run it ? Another government agency ?

    Exactly. They need to find ways to make stores comply with the rules. If a store like WalMart or Meijer can program their registers to prompt for a birthdate to sell alcohol, the store can also program the registers to not allow the sale of alcohol to be paid for with an EBT card. And no restaurants or bars should be able to accept the cards.

    If a store is caught breaking the rules, then they should be sanctioned and not allowed to participate for a given period of time. If these are the rules, the big stores will cooperate because they want the business.
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