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    I believe that the office of the president should always be respected, no matter who is president. HOWEVER, just because a person becomes our president does not mean we all have to support him or her. Obama really hasn't done anything to get me to respect him other than become the first black president, a great accomplishment; however this will not make the economy better or help the war overseas. Obama must earn his respect, but his office of the presidency should be respected.

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    That's your choice to make. I believe in our system of government, and the electorate has spoken.
    Yes, the vote is cast, but not everyone is happy. But people are not protesting in front of the whitehouse screaming for Obama to get removed. Many people think that, but they do not protest about it. Look at gay marriage in California for example. TWICE it has been voted against, yet people still protest about how unfair it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troll View Post
    According to dictionary.com, 'support' is:

    3. to undergo or endure, esp. with patience or submission; tolerate.

    4. to sustain...under trial or affliction.
    Applying those definitions, I will support President Obama.
    That was a very bad example. You did not even include all of the definitions. So right back at you. According to Dicionary.com, support means:

    6. to uphold (a person, cause, policy, etc.) by aid, countenance, one's vote, etc.; back; second.
    7. to maintain or advocate (a theory, principle, etc.).
    I did not vote for Obama, and I certainly do not advocate his principles, so according to THIS definition I do not support Barrack Obama.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by patriot45 View Post
    According to those defs, I will ENDURE!

    The messiah stands for everything I hate. All those liberal policies and the degradation of society! Bah, I will just have to endure.
    You just have to endure. I've got to salute and call him "Sir". :(

    Checkmate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinejcksn View Post
    You just have to endure. I've got to salute and call him "Sir". :(

    Checkmate.
    My respects for that marinejksn. Also appreciation for your service.
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    Stand behind him, it doesn't say anything about making faces behind his back. :D
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba Dawg View Post
    My respects for that marinejksn. Also appreciation for your service.
    Much obliged sir. I'm just out of my element. :p
    "Don't vote. It only encourages the bastards." -PJ O'Roarke
     

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    I do not support him, but I do want his tax policy to fail. I want his energy policy to fail. I want his economic policies to fail. I want his single tour to be the new standard against which a failure as President is measured against. I see his policies as completey opposed to liberty and freedom as anything that has ever threatened this country and I could not ever, not with the cold circle of a gun barrel to the back of my head or edge of a blade to neck, ever support them.
     

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    I feel you on this but I'm also weary of it. Because my thinking is, with the libtard media that we have in this country run by Soros and guys of his ilk you know that any failures of the Obama Administration are going to be turned around and blamed on the outgoing Bush Administration. They've already painted Bush as this hardcore Conservative (which he is NOT and any real Conservative or Libertarian knows this) and if Obama's policies fail you just know they're going to blame Bush and say he put us so far in the hole Obama just couldn't turn it around in his first 4 years and the drones will follow him off the cliff into another 4.

    For the good of this country which I love so much I hope Obama has a great administration and does an outstanding job. Now, it doesn't look promising with the cabinet he's assembling but for the sake of this nation I pray he turns the wheel center. He's not going to enact Conservative principles; this is a fact we're going to have to live with for the next 4 years. We just have to hope he doesn't turn so far Left that he becomes another crackpot in the vein of Wilson or FDR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinejcksn View Post
    Much obliged sir. I'm just out of my element. :p
    Aw heck, I'm the one who drives an Element. You're out of your Hummer. :p

    You know it's interesting, I work for the Federal Government and when I was hired I swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. Right hand raised and swore the oath 'so help me God.' I'm sure you swore a similar oath as a member of the military. In fact, in another post you taught me some things about the rules and regulations you as a service member are required to do above and beyond the duties of a regular citizen.

    As I think back on it, the thing that is foremost in my mind about the oath I took is the object of the oath: The Constitution.

    I thought about it then, and took it seriously, that the oath I swore and the duty that came with it was to the form of government that we have. The obligation was not to a political party, or to a particular leader, it was to a process. A process established and fought for by our Founding Fathers and every succeeding generation.

    A process that started in the pubs and commons of Philadelphia and Boston, and went through Valley Forge and Saratoga and The Cowpens and Gettysburg and Belleau Wood and Normandy and Iwo Jima and the Chosin Reservoir and Khe San and Kuwait and all the way to Anbar Province and all the way around the world.

    It is a process of laws and courts and offices, but it is also a process of people and their beliefs and their actions. We have a peaceful exchange of power every two years, and every four years, in our system of government. That's pretty amazing. Every service member and every citizen is a link in a chain from July 4th 1776 to the present and on to our children and their children. The republic that the next generation inherits is in our hands. It is a big responsibility and an amazing opportunity.

    The road to 2010 and 2012 starts now. I think we're up for it.

    Again, Thank You for your service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba Dawg View Post

    A process that started in the pubs and commons of Philadelphia and Boston, and went through Valley Forge and Saratoga and The Cowpens and Gettysburg and Belleau Wood and Normandy and Iwo Jima and the Chosin Reservoir and Khe San and Kuwait and all the way to Anbar Province and all the way around the world.

    It is a process of laws and courts and offices, but it is also a process of people and their beliefs and their actions. We have a peaceful exchange of power every two years, and every four years, in our system of government. That's pretty amazing. Every service member and every citizen is a link in a chain from July 4th 1776 to the present and on to our children and their children. The republic that the next generation inherits is in our hands. It is a big responsibility and an amazing opportunity.

    The road to 2010 and 2012 starts now. I think we're up for it.

    Again, Thank You for your service.
    I think we're up to it as well. American's have historically been able to rise to the occasion. Whether it be forging the beginnings of our Republic in those oft-mentioned pubs you happened to remind us of (is it any stretch of the imagination to learn that the Marine Corps was founded in a bar? ;)) to uniting with our English, Canadian & Australian mates (Russia too) to save the Free World from Nazism, all the way up to today, great Americans have kicked ass and taken names when the call came through. That's why no matter whatever Obama does, whether he mucks things up or not we'll survive. We might be a little worse for wear but we'll make it. The important thing is to pass on that knowledge to the future generations.
    "Don't vote. It only encourages the bastards." -PJ O'Roarke
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinejcksn View Post
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    I feel you on this but I'm also weary of it. Because my thinking is, with the libtard media that we have in this country run by Soros and guys of his ilk you know that any failures of the Obama Administration are going to be turned around and blamed on the outgoing Bush Administration. They've already painted Bush as this hardcore Conservative (which he is NOT and any real Conservative or Libertarian knows this) and if Obama's policies fail you just know they're going to blame Bush and say he put us so far in the hole Obama just couldn't turn it around in his first 4 years and the drones will follow him off the cliff into another 4.

    For the good of this country which I love so much I hope Obama has a great administration and does an outstanding job. Now, it doesn't look promising with the cabinet he's assembling but for the sake of this nation I pray he turns the wheel center. He's not going to enact Conservative principles; this is a fact we're going to have to live with for the next 4 years. We just have to hope he doesn't turn so far Left that he becomes another crackpot in the vein of Wilson or FDR.

    Yes, lets hope socialism is a rousing success and then for his second term, Obama can move on to communism and a true utopia,
     

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