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#1 Liberal Democrats in the House are lobbying hard for trillion-dollars .
01-19-2009, 10:35 PM
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Liberal Democrats seek to expand stimulus package beyond $1 trillion (looting of Treasury quickens)
Liberal Democrats in the House are lobbying hard to put President-elect Obama’s economic stimulus bill over the trillion-dollar mark.“Some of us are saying we need a stimulus of 1.2 or 1.3 or 1.4 trillion to prevent a depression, rather than just slow our descent into a depression,” said Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.).
The Congressional Progressive Caucus is circulating a letter to Obama among its members, asking for a meeting with him to talk about dramatically expanding the bill. The caucus is also seeking signatures from members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, the Asian-Pacific Islander Caucus and the Congressional Black Caucus.But Republicans are balking at the cost of the stimulus as it is, blasting what they see as the government spending the country out of a recession. And Democratic leaders are resisting the calls to make it bigger.
“We face a steep hill to climb after eight years of Bush economic policies that have given us a huge deficit and millions of job losses,” said a Democratic leadership aide. “So any economic recovery package must be large enough to spur immediate and long-lasting job growth and to help the economy grow again, but any plan must also take into account the reality of the fiscal crisis.”
Nadler and his fellow liberals aren’t the only Democrats who think the bill might not be big enough.
House Appropriations Chairman David Obey (D-Wis.) said when he rolled out the $825 billion plan that it “may undershoot the mark” and suggested Congress may have to spend more money to stimulate the economy.But Obey appeared to be talking about another bill at a later date. Nadler doesn’t think that will work.
“People are saying you can do it later. But if this doesn’t fix it, Republicans will say you threw all this money at it and it didn’t work,” Nadler said. “It’s all or nothing. We have to get it right the first time.”
Committees are expected to revise and vote on the bill Wednesday. Obey hopes to get the bill to the floor by Jan. 28 and pass it by Feb. 13.
As it stands, the package has $550 billion in spending on items like assistance for local government, public-works projects and green energy. It also has $275 billion in tax cuts, $25 billion less than Obama had sought and a smaller part of the package than the 40 percent Obama had proposed. Still, the tax cut portion is larger than liberals would like.
01-20-2009, 01:23 AM
Some people never learn from history. It didn't work with Hoover and FDR, what makes these morons think that spending trillions will get us out of the depression?"If every poor man is to come here and start requesting money for all his children, the applicants will never be satisfied and the nation's finances will collapse." Emperor Tiberius: Tacitus:Annals
01-20-2009, 09:13 PM
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The first $350 billion for the bailout was a disaster. The stock of those financial institutions that received the money has sunk like a rock proving that meddling in the private sector will not work. This country is going to wind up being a banana republic with our money being devalued. Investors have flocked to gold and other precious metals because of the economy and the fear of the market.
The second $350 billion plus the stimulus will be another bad mistake. I am hopeful that the Repubs can slow down this freight train but I doubt it. The spending portion of this bill will increase and the tax cuts will decrease. Billions will go out to bail out poorly run states like CA and NY. What a farce this Democratic congress and Obama is going to bring to those who expect hope and positive change.
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