louis c (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-27-08 05:14 PM
Didn't eat at my relatives for Thanksgiving because of politics
Advertisements [?]First off, I had no intention of talking politics today. There is no need to when you win. I have cousins that all work for the government, yet they think they should be Republicans. You know the type, blue collar bigots. I'm in the private sector, but a strong union guy (President of my local). I worked up in New Hampshire during the campaign for Obama. As a matter of fact, it was written up in the local papers. My cousins' husbands are 2 custodians, a female cousin is another custodian, and her husband works for a group that is underwritten by government grants (CAPIC). What really is starling is that the only sibling that was for Obama owns a small business and is not invited to the family times because her boy friend is African-American. He also works in the private sector and was a strong Obama supporter. They had Thanksgiving at his folks house in the newly minted blue state of Virginia. So, here's the scorecard, all the folks who get paid with benefits from the government are working Republicans, and the working private sector group, are Obama Democrats. They all gave me shit, right up to the election and I haven't seen them since.
I work on Thanksgiving, they all have it off with pay, yet vote against themselves. I entered the house at around 4:30 PM. The first words out of my host's mouth were, "We'll have no politics or arguing today". I said "sure, have a nice Thanksgiving, I'll see you later" and left. Now my wife has to bring me a plate from
her sister's house. At least they're all Democrats.Probably projection. louis still isn't over 2000 and 2004 so he figures the Republicans are the same.louis c (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-27-08 05:27 PM
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4. I enjoyed the holiday
They were all afraid I would rub it in. They won't get over this election for years. All they have to do is just see me smile and it will tick them off.
I love this country and it's great to be alive in this time.auntsue (26 posts) Thu Nov-27-08 05:26 PM
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2. Hmmmm you said
you didn't want to talk politics yet were offened when your host said We'll have no political talk. I like to debate too and I'm glad "we" won. But on a holiday I think we could ALL just let it go. They know how you think and you know how they think so for one day we can all talk about something else - ya think ????louis c (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-27-08 05:30 PM
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6. My mom was there for 3 hours before I arrived
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 05:40 PM by louis c
and all they did was talk politics, about how awful it will be under Obama.
Next, to be told what you can and can't say before you even get into a host's door can make you feel a tad uncomfortable, don't you think? It's his house and his rules, however, it's my life and I can choose to walk away, politely, wouldn't you say?Amazing how just about every "evil Republican relative" thread has relatives who are "racist" and say the "N" word. Kinda like how they cried racism against ANYONE who said they would not vote for Obama or who said they didn't agree with his policies.DeschutesRiver (843 posts) Thu Nov-27-08 08:44 PM
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41. I second your post
In fact, I ended up having to cut communications with numerous relatives who think bitching about race and acting negative is normal. Maybe for them, but there is no point for me to have to keep hearing and cutting through the racist crap in order to pull some good nuggets out of these relationships. Done the same with some people with which I formerly did business; and ended a hobby that involved being with people who couldn't separate their racial bias from enjoying the hobby. Not everyone there was like that, but it doesn't take more than a group of two or three sharing their idiot views to tank any fun to be had. Some were uneducated; others were educated but not very well; most of them had a healthy amount of wealth.
I have come to the point where I won't even argue the racist point with these freaks. I just ostracize them by eliminating any future contact. And I am doubly on the lookout now for that - esp. with people I do business with, or buy products or services for my daily needs from. The economy is in the shitter, and my bucks won't go to support people who are mentally unstable about the race issue - it consumes some of them, and it is beyond a "point of view" deal.
It is a backward looking, negative thinking kind of lifestyle which has no place in my universe. Life is way too short to have to pretend everything is okay with relatives/friends/business people spouting racist or negative crap in front of me.
Louis...they're probably all sick of your yearly rants about President Bush and conservatives.louis c (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-27-08 05:37 PM
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10. We have always talked politics at gatherings, for years
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 05:37 PM by louis c
There was no "no politics" rule on 2000 or 2004, just this time. I left because I felt uncomfortable. They were there for 4 hours but told me this in front of everyone. I felt uncomfortable, and left. I never said I felt insulted. Uncomfortable. You see, politics was all right when they all agreed, but when I arrived, they're bigoted nonsense would be confronted. If they said nothing, I would have done the same. However, I will not let ignorant, bigoted statements ever go unchallenged in my presence, and they know it.
Warpy (1000+ posts) Thu Nov-27-08 05:36 PM
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9. They are determined to go out of their way to be assholes
and either you risk ulcers by swallowing your resentment along with dinner or you leave.
Maybe someday they'll decide to rejoin the human race. I hope for your sake that they do.
Next time, have Thanksgiving at your house and invite all the Democrats.zorahopkins (593 posts) Thu Nov-27-08 05:53 PM
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16. Next Time, Do This
Next time, do this --
Invite all your relatives to your place.
Be sure to invite the African-American boyfriend, and tell him to bring along lots and lots of his friends.
Have several big "We Love Obama" posters throughout your house.
Make jokes about how stupid Republicans are.
Tell them if they don't like it, they can leave -- and have them leave BEFORE you serve any food or beer to them.