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  1. #1 WHY HOUSTON FLOODING ISNíT A SIGN OF CLIMATE CHANGE 
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    https://www.thegwpf.com/why-houston-...limate-change/

    Was Harvey unprecedented in intensity?
    In this case, we didnít have just a tropical storm like Claudette, but a major hurricane, which covered a much larger area with heavy rain. Roger Pielke Jr. has pointed out that the U.S. has had only four Category 4 (or stronger) hurricane strikes since 1970, but in about the same number of years preceding 1970 there were 14 strikes. So we canít say that we are experiencing more intense hurricanes in recent decades.

    Going back even earlier, a Category 4 hurricane struck Galveston in 1900, killing between 6,000 and 12,000 people. That was the greatest natural disaster in U.S. history.

    And donít forget, we just went through an unprecedented length of time Ė almost 12 years Ė without a major hurricane (Cat 3 or stronger) making landfall in the U.S.
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    AlGore can't hear you!!!

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    Nope it's climaty changidy, the coast is under water that there is proof!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retread View Post
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    Was Harvey unprecedented in intensity?
    In this case, we didn’t have just a tropical storm like Claudette, but a major hurricane, which covered a much larger area with heavy rain. Roger Pielke Jr. has pointed out that the U.S. has had only four Category 4 (or stronger) hurricane strikes since 1970, but in about the same number of years preceding 1970 there were 14 strikes. So we can’t say that we are experiencing more intense hurricanes in recent decades.

    Going back even earlier, a Category 4 hurricane struck Galveston in 1900, killing between 6,000 and 12,000 people. That was the greatest natural disaster in U.S. history.

    And don’t forget, we just went through an unprecedented length of time – almost 12 years – without a major hurricane (Cat 3 or stronger) making landfall in the U.S.

    City of Houston has a long history of floods,which isn't surprising as it was set up in wet ground. Here is a link to a long history of floods:

    Significant Houston area Floods

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    I don't know if the amount of water dumped on Houston is the result of global warming. I'm just not a scientist. But any city hit with that much rain is going to flood.

    When we had our flooding in 2014, it was preceded by about 7 inches of rain in a 4 hour period, and complicated by poorly maintained infrastructure on all levels-cities, counties and state.
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    https://www.constructiondive.com/new...ema-fl/503874/

    More than half of residential and commercial properties in Houston at high or moderate risk of flooding are not in the Federal Emergency Management Agency's Special Flood Hazard Areas, according to CoreLogic. Properties outside those zones don't need flood insurance, meaning many flood victims will have to foot the cost of Hurricane Harvey repair bills themselves.

    https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/a...t-regulations/

    The Harris County Commissioners Court unanimously approved new construction requirements. Starting January 1, 2018 all new buildings Ė homes as well as commercial Ė must be at least 24 inches above the 500 year flood plain. Harris County Judge Ed Emmett believes these new building regulations are the nationís toughest.
    There are some experts that estimate in some areas of the 100 year flood plain, new construction would need to be built almost eight feet above ground. This new building code is for unincorporated Harris County only.

    https://weather.com/news/news/2017-1...ng-floodplains


    Plans are being drawn up to build a new neighborhood on a piece of land that sits in a floodplain.
    Houston has built many developments like this, but during Hurricane Harvey, their vulnerability was exposed.
    Politicians appear to be supportive of this new development despite the inherent risks of building on a floodplain.

    https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-...n-flood-plain/

    The Houston City Council in 2006, five years after Allisonís $9 billion in damages, approved an ordinance banning new buildings in the floodway. The city relented, however, after lawsuits contending the prohibition was an unjust taking of property. A reworked ordinance allowed people to build on piers, with dirt dug out to account for the space taken up by the piers and with the inclusion of an engineering study showing construction will have minimal impact on flood levels.
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    Being outside an "official" Flood Area means flood
    insurance is super cheap.

    You'd be nuts not having it. A pool overflowing is
    considered "flood damage".

    All the houses we've had in Florida have been covered
    by Flood Ins.

    And now that I've read this thread, I'm getting the
    MO house covered too...
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    Houston: Flooding in hurricanes is NORMAL, building your house in a flood zone is not.

    New Orleans: Building your city BELOW sea Level was not smart to begin with!
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    They can all become boat people in the future, crowded freeways a thing of the past
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