12-08-2008, 10:22 AM
Binny Hinn and other tele-evangelist types are into this.
Some group called 'the Toronto group' - a bunch of folks into something called 'the Toronto Blessing' (I think) are into it as well. Not just that laugh 'blessing' thing - but the gold dust and gemstones. There are pockets of these things springing up here and there.
Since you don't think the term 'fundamentalist' should be used with this ... give me one that I can use because I have no idea what to label this bunch that is claiming gold dust and gemstones. They SEEM to be fundamentalists to me - but I'll go by whatever label you want me to use.If leftists didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
12-08-2008, 10:24 AM
Last edited by FlaGator; 12-08-2008 at 10:30 AM.An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
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12-08-2008, 10:30 AMAn armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
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12-08-2008, 10:39 AM
So then these folks are christians but have broken off from the traditional fundamentalist christian groups and are sort of on their own? THAT I can understand. Some are claiming to be 'baptist' or 'assemblies of god' but they have veered from the traditional teachings of those churches?
Kinda like when Catholics in the Pacific island crucify themselves on Good Friday - that's not Catholic teaching and they are off doing their own thing???
If so - you have answered one of my questions. I was wondering if this is a new teaching or a new thing that is accepted and pushed by a generally known denomination.
These are some of the names that are associated with 'gold dust' - Rodney Howard-Browne, Randy Clark, John Arnott, John Kilpatrick, Steve Hill, Colin Dye, Sandy Millar, Gerald Coates, David Pytches, Terry Virgo, Benny Hinn, David Yonggi Cho, Kenneth Copeland, and Morris Cerullo. (I only recognize the Benny Hinn name).
There are other small churches scattered throughout America and Canada that are claiming this dusting thing. I've seen the videos and read accounts. It's not isolated.
It seems to be 'up and coming' - or perhaps it's just going to be a fad that will come and go.
I was just wondering if anyone had heard of this - or experienced this - and what the story is.If leftists didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
12-08-2008, 10:51 AMAn armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
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12-08-2008, 02:37 PM
I think it's interesting from a group behavior observation level, but I also think that the woman in the first video and her friend are faking it somehow. I don't know who she is, but she comes across to me as a charlatan-like Benny Hinn.
I wouldn't ever say that this phenomenon was beyond God's abilities or powers- I have heard of rosaries being dipped into holy water at certain sites (like Lourdes) and changing from glass to gold or silver. The people involved in those situations were also healed of physical ailments, and believed that the changed rosaries were confirmation of those healings. I believe that the Holy Spirit heals people, I've witnessed it and have participated in laying hands on people. But I'd never be able to convince a skeptic that it happened.
12-08-2008, 02:49 PM
...and are unsubstantiated. Making substances or small objects seem to appear out of thin air is the kind of thing even amateur magicians can accomplish.
My advice to you: If your preacher starts making claims about gold dust or gemstones appearing out of thin air, walk away while keeping a firm grip on your wallet or purse.
Last edited by The Night Owl; 12-08-2008 at 03:07 PM.
12-08-2008, 02:50 PM
More appropriately known as the "Word of Faith" Movement rather than Fundamentalists.
Many of the nations most well known fundamentalist Preachers and Teachers denounce Word-Faith theology as aberrant and contrary to the teachings of the Bible.At least once every human should have to run for his life, to teach him that milk does not come from supermarkets, that safety does not come from policemen, that news is not something that happens to other people. ~ Robert Heinlein
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