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    A fascinating radio piece about a Pentecostal preacher who stopped believing in Hell...

    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radi...px?episode=304

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    304: Heretics

    The story of Reverend Carlton Pearson, a renowned evangelical pastor in Tulsa, Oklahoma, who cast aside the idea of Hell, and with it everything he'd worked for over his entire life.

    Prologue.
    Carlton Pearson's church, Higher Dimensions, was once one of the biggest in the city, drawing crowds of 5,000 people every Sunday. But several years ago, scandal engulfed the reverend. He didn't have an affair. He didn't embezzle lots of money. His sin was something that to a lot of people is far worse: He stopped believing in Hell. (2 minutes)

    Act One. Rise.

    Reporter Russell Cobb takes us through the remarkable and meteoric rise of Carlton Pearson from a young man to a Pentecostal Bishop: from the moment he first cast the devil out of his 17-year-old girlfriend, to the days when he had a close, personal relationship with Oral Roberts and had appearances on TV and at the White House. Just as Reverend Pearson's career peaked, with more than 5,000 members of his congregation coming every week, he started to think about Hell, wondering if a loving God would really condemn most of the human race to burn and writhe in the fire of Hell for eternity. (30 minutes)

    Act Two. Fall.

    Once he starts preaching his own revelation, Carlton Pearson's church falls apart. After all, when there's no Hell (as the logic goes), you don't really need to believe in Jesus to be saved from it. What follows are the swift departures of his pastors, and an exodus from his congregation—which quickly dwindled to a few hundred people. Donations drop off too, but just as things start looking bleakest, new kinds of people, curious about his change in beliefs, start showing up on Sunday mornings. (23 minutes)

    Postscript: Carlton Pearson renamed his church after the story was produced: It is now called New Dimensions.

    Song: "Let the Church Roll On," Mahalia Jackson
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    Hell is the single most misunderstood and mistought aspects of Christianity.
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    TNO always good for a laugh. :D See ya next month.
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    I can't wait for all of the upcoming "I stopped believing in Obama" stories.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliCon View Post
    Hell is the single most misunderstood and mistought aspects of Christianity.
    Like most things in Christianity, doctrine on hell has been fluid and changing... and the various branches treat it very differently.

    Whats amazing is that belief in it's traditional form (fire, eternal suffering) has persisted so long.... there simply is no rationalizing an all good, all loving, all forgiving God, as compatible with such a concept no matter how hard one tries.

    That being the case, we've seen a shift to a more benign conception of hell... as just annihilation, not eternal suffering.

    And where have you been TNO? Welcome back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    And where have you been TNO? Welcome back.
    Oh, I've been around. I just haven't had much time to read or post lately. But thanks for the welcome back anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    Like most things in Christianity, doctrine on hell has been fluid and changing... and the various branches treat it very differently.

    Whats amazing is that belief in it's traditional form (fire, eternal suffering) has persisted so long.... there simply is no rationalizing an all good, all loving, all forgiving God, as compatible with such a concept no matter how hard one tries.

    That being the case, we've seen a shift to a more benign conception of hell... as just annihilation, not eternal suffering.

    And where have you been TNO? Welcome back.
    wilbur - since as an athiest you are as about as qualified to speak to the truths of Christianity as I am as a man am qualified to speak to the discomforts of a period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    Whats amazing is that belief in it's traditional form (fire, eternal suffering) has persisted so long.... there simply is no rationalizing an all good, all loving, all forgiving God, as compatible with such a concept no matter how hard one tries.

    A father can disown his son, but never stop loving him at the same time.


    I, personally, don't believe hell is a lake of fire. The Bible speaks of darkness alot more than the one instance that hell is referred to as a lake of fire. I believe that when a person dies, they will stand in the presence of God and will be cast out. Knowing that God is real, he is your creator, and you can never be in his presence again, is hell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Night Owl View Post
    A fascinating radio piece about a Pentecostal preacher who stopped believing in Hell...

    http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radi...px?episode=304
    Were you molested by a priest as a child or something? I wish more Christians were as obsessed with their religion as you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel Yell View Post
    A father can disown his son, but never stop loving him at the same time.


    I, personally, don't believe hell is a lake of fire. The Bible speaks of darkness alot more than the one instance that hell is referred to as a lake of fire. I believe that when a person dies, they will stand in the presence of God and will be cast out. Knowing that God is real, he is your creator, and you can never be in his presence again, is hell.
    the biggest problem is that people get stupid and start connecting temporal attributes to something that is celestial. FIRE has more in meaning than just a physical flame.
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