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  1. #1 The democrat 2020 bench - JV team? 
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    Column in The Hill lists 36 possible 2020 candidates:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...-trump-in-2020

    It looks to me that this is the most intelligent one:

    Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson
    The wrestler-turned-movie star, 45, said last year that he’s “seriously considering” a bid, although he said that 2024 is a more “realistic” option.
    Noticably absent from the list was the smartest woman on the planet, HRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old dog View Post



    Noticably absent from the list was the smartest woman on the planet, HRC.

    She actually has a team working on her as we speak to make her more presentable, it will take more than a good furrier.
    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
    Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness;
    Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
    21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes
    And clever in their own sight! Isaiah 5:20-21 NASB

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    None of them would draw an especially big audience to a speaking venue, if you eliminate autograph-seekers.

    And the DNC's out of money.
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    I was looking at their list. Bernie and Biden will be laughable in 2020 in terms of age and relevance. I don't think Oprah will run. Corey Booker has lied about too many things, although I believe he is posturing for a place on the ticket. I see him no higher than Veep.

    The Dems will need someone youngish who has not blotted his or her copybook too much. Some name recognition would help. I think Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand is a strong possibility, and bound to be supported by the Clinton faction of the party.

    Kamala Harris is a rotting pustule, but people outside of California or outside of pro life circles don't know that. She deliberately and without apology violated David Daleiden's 4th amendment rights so that her baby-parts-selling friends would protected. Kamala was also a protege of Willie Brown, here again, a fact that doesn't mean much outside of CA. She is a definite maybe.

    I don't see Eric Holder being able to pull it off. He has too much dirt attached to his name, going back to OK city bombing. Maybe he needs money and a campaign would allow him to keep the money if he doesn't win the primaries.

    Julian Castro is a possibility. With the DACA thing taking up so much airtime, a Hispanic would be a possibility for 2020. However, Hispanics split over Trump and many blacks are not fond of Hispanics. Luis Gutiérrez, on the other hand, is the Ted Cruz of the Democratic party. I don't believe he'll have wide appeal. He is at his best in Congress where he can yell and scream and bark about his issues.

    Martin O'Malley barely made a dent in 2016. Many people didn't even know the name of the third guy on the stage next to Hillary and Bernie. He is well known in Maryland--and by watchers of "The Wire" whose mayor (Italian Catholic instead of Irish Catholic) was meant to depict O'Malley. It was a mixed bag. I just haven't seen O'Malley jump to the public consciousness, and, as a white male (and not even gay!), he may only have a chance as the #2 guy.

    Rep. John Delaney and Chris Murphy have the same demographic issues as O'Malley, but Delaney has already declared Murphy is young, only in his 40s.. If the Dems find in polls that a white male at the helm will bring in independents, they might try it. However, minorities might lose enthusiasm for election day if one of their own isn't running. Any white male Dem serious about the presidency will have to give away the store. You think your taxes are bad now.....

    I don't think Steyer has a chance unless events push him into the forefront for some reason. Tim Kaine looks creepy--like a child molestor. He certainly didn't help Clinton and may have hurt her. De Blasio is having hard time keeping support among the liberal New Yorkers, who are the only ones who would really back him.

    Kerry may soon be pulled into the fake Russian dossier thing and may not consider running unless he is drafted. Sally Yates is also part of the DOJ swamp/dossier thing and a lot will depend for her on how deeply she gets pulled into the eventual criminal charges that seem to be coming for many DOJ higher-ups. Democrat women love Yates because she stood up to Trump, who trashed Megan and Mika as women. Republicans find Yates both insubordinate and a troublemaker. Yates is ultimately responsible for the ambush "interview" that got Flynn charged: the Left will love that, the Right will not, and the low infos might not understand why they should vote for this woman who worked for the government.

    The Cuomos are compromised by mob ties of a grandfather (same reason Mario didn't run); Eric Garcetti is "lovingly" referred to as "Mayor Yoga Pants" by Angelinos and he has made himself unpopular by forcing bike lanes everywhere and taking away usable road. In Los Angeles. (Just think about that.)

    Mark Cuban and "The Rock" would be fun, but unless the Dems have a real plan for marketing these guys as the "anti-Trump", they are too pop-culture to be taken seriously by rainbow social justice Dems.

    Looking at some of the others on the list:

    Sherrod Brown is white and male; name recognition decent; no terrible things that we know about yet.
    Jason Kander and Pete Buttigieg are both in their 30s and can afford to wait another election cycle. Both white males.

    The Starbucks and Facebook CEOs could be interesting choices (business types running against a business President). While CEOs are not the usual image for the Democrat President, there might be a desire to fight Trump's strength, which is the market, business, industry. Starbucks and Facebook are the new American business model (Yes, $5 coffee and a privacy destroyer). Trump might then be seen as an old business model of dirty factories and the coal industry. A lot would depend on the personalities of these folks, but, in the end, they might not be up to the challenge.

    Mitch Landrieu is not very strong outside of Louisiana. I can see him as a VP pick: a turncoat Southerner maybe under a Black president.

    Sen. Amy Klobuchar is a woman in a #MeToo era, but we'll see how far that goes. She apparently has some great policy chops, but that argues more for a cabinet post than a presidential run.

    Gov. Gina Raimondo is also a woman who could run. Her Veep would have to be black. Not even Hispanic, but Black. She's of Italian descent, but maybe she could pull in the Hispanic/Catholic votes. Her big claim to fame is that she was a venture capitalist and treasurer of Rhode Island before she became governor. If the Dems are looking for financial credibility against Trump and a female candidate, Raimondo might be the ticket. I wouldn't count her out.

    Deval Patrick, former governor of MA, is Obama's pick to be the second Black president. Getting the Blacks to the polls is essential, and another Black candidate could do that. I think Patrick might be a top name for the list.

    Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper is hated in Colorado by gun owners and anyone who doesn't want to die in a car crash with a stoner at the wheel. However, the Dems love him. My guess is that Hickenlooper is too eager to take everyone's guns: there is a pro gun wing of the Dems (shrinking, but still there) and the independents might find that to be too much. (They might welcome legal pot, however.)

    Washington Gov. Jay Inslee is, well, the governor of Washington state--which is largely swayed by Seattle. Inslee might be the SJW choice and would be horrific for the nation. The Hill regards his networking as a big plus and it may be. Once again, he'll have to give away the store and ANTIFA will come to the White House for tea.

    Rep. Tim Ryan is known for challenging Nancy Pelosi and losing. Not sure how good that is. I don't know what kind of support he has nationally and, once again, he's young enough to wait until 2024. He might have designs on House Speaker if 2018 is horrifically awful for the GOP and if Pelosi chokes on her medication and dies screaming about resisting President Bush.

    Steve Bullock is interesting: he's a Democratic governor of a red state (Montana) and might have something to teach the party about having appeal across the aisle. However, ANTIFA may not like him and, once again, he's white and male and straight. Bullock may not be radical enough for the new Democratic party.

    Who runs will also depend on who ultimately gets control of the party. Right now, the Clinton faction is holding on by a thread, which is why Kirsten Gillibrand is in a good position. However, things could tip in the next couple of years if the old guard (Pelosi, Feinstein, Schumer, etc.) lose control to the SJW mobs at the door.

    Ultimately, I see Gillibrand or Deval Patrick as the frontrunners here. However, we'll just have to wait and see.
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    I see a Booker/Gillebrand ticket.
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    I don't see any ticket that is not led by a minority as in Black. They won with Obama twice and think they will put the money on the dark horse. Its possible a white could be a VP but if so I am thinking Warren.

    I think their strong suit would be a black and a hispanic at the helm, Cory booker and Juian Castro could pull big across the spectrum. White liberals feel good when they vote for a minority which bodes well for them, lock in the minority votes with booker/Castro and the whites will juice all over them selves as they pull the lever.

    That said their big hope is Oprah, but I think she is a long shot due to her reclusive nature and I think the same thing on MeShell Obama, she really does not want the vis that would bring.
    Zuckerberg will prob make a play for it with his Billionaire backers and his Billions, but he is young and pasty white, not what the Dems want to lead with, but he could be a VP contender. He brings HUGE money and a double handful of Billionaire boys who support his UBI (universal basic income) plan.

    Saunders/Biden, too old, too white, could be VP contenders (Joe would turn it down) but till think the more minorities the merrier...

    Cuban has an ego that would make an egomaniac look humble and his focus is on basketball.

    Eric Holder is jockeying for a position already and I think he would be happy at AG/DoJ, he can wreck havoc like he did last time or let him, head up the FBI or a possible VP slot if POTUS is a non black.

    DeBalsio/Cuomo, maybe FAR LEFT but not on Dem Radar, to white. Same goes for Kerry who is ONLY running to stroke his massive ego.



    Overall the Dems have a wide bench, but few if any bring any real depth as contenders. But then I am not a libTard and do not look at the lineup thru their looking glass.
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    I see a list of slime balls who together can't come up with an ounce of brains
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old n Grumpy View Post
    I see a list of slime balls who together can't come up with an ounce of brains
    If you took them all and put them in a room with a boot full of piss and told them, to pour it out they could not do it with the directions written on the heel...
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    I see a Booker/Gillebrand ticket.
    Booker is liar and a fake.

    Gillibrand is annoying, but I think she genuinely believes in what she says. She also has never falsely claimed to have saved someone from a burning building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    I see a Booker/Gillebrand ticket.
    Not sure on Gillebrand...White, well educated, smart, not bad looking, and I just don't think she is far enough to the left for them. Not saying no, but I think the big thing is she is to moderate for the crowd and she is not a mod by no means.

    The Dems are going to go ALL in, FULL FU MANCHU for 2020 because if Trump comes back he will kill their dreams of a communist-socialist Amerika. For that reason I don't see them playing nice with her, expect them to go all in, extreme left...
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