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  1. #1 Donald Trump's best option is to hope for impeachment. 
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    More DU loony tunes and wishful thinking. Get your popcorn out.

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    Donald Trump's best option is to hope for impeachment.

    He has no good options but impeachment is the best option that is left.

    At this point in time, he is in danger of going to jail. Bob Mueller is turning over every rock in his investigation and very few expect to find nothing. Whether it be violation of RICO statutes, money laundering, bank fraud, or treason, there are no good options for Donald Trump.

    But, the House of Representatives would probably refuse to take up any impeachment question until after the mid-term elections? They would prefer for the Democrats to do their dirty work. Can they wait that long?

    If the House were to impeach, now or later, the trial would move to the US Senate where two-thirds would be required to convict. And that is where Donald Trump's best hope lies, in the US Senate. All he would need is 34 votes to escape conviction. Donald Trump would prefer those odds to the odds that are presently on the table.

    Surely he can get 34 Republicans to vote with him and against conviction? If so, just like Bill Clinton, he would return to his job. That is the best option that is left for Donald Trump. That would be the smart action for him to seek.

    But, Donald Trump is not smart. He thinks of today, not tomorrow. He is listening to people like Steve Bannon, telling him to fire Rosenstein and take control. That is the more likely option that he will choose.
    Vinca (37,117 posts)

    2. He's in a double/triple bind. Even if he's impeached, other charges that might have been unearthed

    could be charged and if they're violations of state laws, Pence can't pardon him. If I eventually see Don in an orange jumpsuit I'll die a happy woman.
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    4. Look for a lot more searches coming...

    And another lawyer to be swept up in corruption , and from more illegal activities. He surrounds himself with criminals. If he fires anyone in the DOJ to get to Mueller watch the bombshells drop on him. He'll be in worse trouble. His only way out is resignation hoping he'll save some others and himself. Its about to begin, so grab refreshments, and some popcorn because this trump train wreck is about to happen, and he'll begin it onto himself. Criminals don't last long in OUR White House.
    TheBlackAdder (8,721 posts)

    17. He's going to summit with Putin in Moscow and never get back onboard Air Force One.
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    18. The House won't immediately seek to impeach

    My guess is that we'd get hearings and people like Kushner, Trump Jr, Eric Trump, Bannon and others would testify in televised hearings. They may try to claim executive privilege, but I think the courts will reject that argument. The GOP will still defend Trump.
    However, in between most of them taking the 5th dozens of times, I'm guessing we'll get one (or more) of them melting down on the stand and admitting to working with the Russians and that Trump Sr was in on it big time. Bannon mentioned a few of them folding easily.

    Once the meltdown happens, the tide will turn against Team Trump and Republicans will join in the calls for impeachment because the public is now strongly for impeachment. Even a few Fox News hosts (Shep Smith for one) will call for Trump to resign.

    I'd say roughly half the House GOP and Senate GOP will vote to impeach. Trump will keep screaming NO COLLUSION and FAKE NEWS as they lead him out of the White House.

    Mike Pence takes over, but is a wounded duck and doesn't accomplish much as president and decides not to run for re-election in 2020.
    On a side note, as they say, payback is a b*tch. What are they going to do when partisan insiders go after then next Dem President with accusations of 'sexual harassment' and/or 'inappropriate touch' and/or investigations and indictments for insider trading, tax evasion, tax fraud, perjury and/or a thousand other possibilities?

    If liberals/Democrats get away with politicizing the FBI, DOJ, IRS and there's no consequences then there's no reason for others to not do it as well. And make NO mistake, when the goal is to find something, ANYTHING in order to impeach a duly elected President then it's clear that it is political theater and politicizing our rule of law.

    They always think they are immune to receiving back what they dish out. Then they squeal like stuck pigs when it comes back to haunt them.
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    All these fools care about is their hate.

    The country comes second or below.
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    They always think they are immune to receiving back what they dish out. Then they squeal like stuck pigs when it comes back to haunt them.
    Not just what you described. If they fail in their endeavor, after the full court press they are engaging in, they will end up making him the most powerful man on Earth - the one that could not be taken down by the entire US government.

    It's not like libs ever really think things through, but they definitely have not considered what the end game might look like if they lose.
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    meanwhile these mutts don't give a damn about all the corrupt deeds that hillary did. deleting 33,000 emails, maintaining a private server with classified information in her house, bleach biting her hard drives, physically destroying mobile devices, rigging the primaries to ensure she was the nominee, getting answers to debate questions in advance.... shall I go on?
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    "Even if Trump didn't pay Russian hookers to pee on one another to defile a bed the Obamas once slept on it sounds like something he would do and that's all that matters." DemocratSinceBirth, Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:32 AM
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    Nobody knows what Mueller has uncovered and nobody will know until he makes it public. Any speculation on either side is just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Nobody knows what Mueller has uncovered and nobody will know until he makes it public. Any speculation on either side is just that.
    Considering the amount of leaking that has gone on, I call bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Nobody knows what Mueller has uncovered and nobody will know until he makes it public. Any speculation on either side is just that.
    Believe me, if he had anything and I do mean ANYTHING on Trump he wouldn't be poking around Playmates and porn stars. Speaking of which, neither have anything to do with candidate or President Trump. Any alleged affairs with these women were when he was a private citizen, absolutely no bearing on his station as president.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Believe me, if he had anything and I do mean ANYTHING on Trump he wouldn't be poking around Playmates and porn stars. Speaking of which, neither have anything to do with candidate or President Trump. Any alleged affairs with these women were when he was a private citizen, absolutely no bearing on his station as president.
    The left is trying to shake his base, especially his Evangelical supporters.
    The price of freedom is something the protected will never know.

    "Even if Trump didn't pay Russian hookers to pee on one another to defile a bed the Obamas once slept on it sounds like something he would do and that's all that matters." DemocratSinceBirth, Wed Jan 11, 2017, 09:32 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasp69 View Post
    Considering the amount of leaking that has gone on, I call bullshit.
    So do I. The dems disgust me. It seems we have a new international crisis weekly, if not daily, and all we get is an idiot like Maxine Waters yelling "impeach him". I'm sure if asked, she couldn't begin to answer why.

    Are there no patriots left in this country? The pols are so interested in taking each other down that the country could be going to hell in a hand basket (an old timer phrase) and they wouldn't notice. They remind me of 2 male schnauzers I had years ago---who would grab each other by the throat and not let go. It's not a favorable comparison to the Dem pol's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    Nobody knows what Mueller has uncovered and nobody will know until he makes it public. Any speculation on either side is just that.
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