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    Quote Originally Posted by Dlr Pyro View Post
    Orange County will be with Sandy Eggo, Riverside and San Bernardino. All relatively conservative areas.
    Looks like San Diego will be with SoCal as well. I could live with that.

    It's really tempting to vote "Yes" on this thing, although, you KNOW it will end up in court for years.
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    Paper gesture. You just can't wave a magic wand and split a state up. NJ did this in 1980 and it meant nothing. It literally takes an act of congress to create new states and there's no way in blue hell the Democrats are going to relinquish even 1 of those 55 electoral votes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    Paper gesture. You just can't wave a magic wand and split a state up. NJ did this in 1980 and it meant nothing. It literally takes an act of congress to create new states and there's no way in blue hell the Democrats are going to relinquish even 1 of those 55 electoral votes.
    And there are a lot of conservatives who would like to see the voting power of California as it pertains to national elections diminished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaGator View Post
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    Having lived in Ca and traveled it extensively if they were to ever go RED the people would pour into there like the great flood. Incredibly beautiful state and I have seen more of it that most of the people that live there.
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    Splitting California would solve a few problems.

    One, I believe that will reduce the flow of Illegals, SoCal would put up walls to Mexico and enforce the law; any Illegal would have to sneek into Cal by boat.

    Two, the taxes and the crazy laws would be reduced; no more driving out Working Class people to other states.

    Three, not only would businesses want to stay, but Nor and Soc would once again provide a friendly environment for those wishing to locate there.

    Four, more personal freedom for individuals; no insane gun control or reduction of Free Speech rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan D. Doty View Post
    Splitting California would solve a few problems.

    One, I believe that will reduce the flow of Illegals, SoCal would put up walls to Mexico and enforce the law; any Illegal would have to sneek into Cal by boat.

    Two, the taxes and the crazy laws would be reduced; no more driving out Working Class people to other states.

    Three, not only would businesses want to stay, but Nor and Soc would once again provide a friendly environment for those wishing to locate there.

    Four, more personal freedom for individuals; no insane gun control or reduction of Free Speech rights.
    NorCal still has san francisco and all the liberal nuttiness that population brings to the table. They will get the tax revenue from Silicon Valley and most likely squander it on stupid things like the current group of clowns in Sacramento do now.
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    I hope this helps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post


    I hope this helps.
    I hope this happens
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaGator View Post
    And there are a lot of conservatives who would like to see the voting power of California as it pertains to national elections diminished.
    OK, but there aren't enough conservatives to get the votes to allow for the creation of new states. Also, this isn't designed to help conservatives but to further strengthen the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    OK, but there aren't enough conservatives to get the votes to allow for the creation of new states. Also, this isn't designed to help conservatives but to further strengthen the left.
    Right now it is like cutting a turd in three pieces and arguing which portion is the cleanest part.
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