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    "The Ireland-based gambling website Paddy Power thinks it's highly unlikely Trump lasts his first term in office without being impeached. The odds are currently 4-7 that the president is impeached before Inauguration Day 2021. To put that in perspective, oddsmakers at Paddy Power think it's nearly twice as likely Trump will be impeached as it is that he will serve four years in office.

    Paddy Power has additional ominous betting odds for the White House. Of the three years Trump has remaining in his presidency, the betting site has impeachment most likely in 2018. The odds that Trump is impeached in 2018 are nearly even at 5-4. For a sitting president, that doesn't paint a particularly rosy picture. The odds get exponentially better for Trump if he emerges from 2018 unscathed, as the site puts the odds at 7-1 that Trump is impeached in 2019 and 50-1 in 2020. "

    http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump...achment-767280

    Trump is going down, he may be able to last thru the term but barely, he will never see a 2nd term. IF by some chance he runs and it looks like he MIGHT possibly pull it out, he won't live to see the light of day at inauguration time.

    The reason why? The GOP. The GOP has been so infiltrated by the extreme far left that they operate as a support package to the Dems.

    I give the US 25 years to be full fu manchu Communist-Socialist-Fascistism, yea it will be called by different names but that is what it will be and it will be headed up by an elected dictator.

    The plan: The far left in spite of its HATRED for capitalism learned after the collapse of the USSR that capitalism is the money train for the dream of Communist-Socialist-Fascist State. Just look at China and how it uses capitalism to fund its communist govt. But the Amerika that is emerging will take it this up a few notches.

    So how will it look: Only the police and the bad guys will have guns, our new and improved "Living" Constitution will be the law of the land, of course since it's a living document the law will be a reflection of what the govt wants. The Bill of RIghts will by GOVT given rights, NOT GOD and NOT inalienable. The Federal govt will be a quasi Federal-Capitalist State. But not capitalism as we know it. The Feds will in be partnership with MEGA corps, Facebook, Google, Amazon and the major Financial institutions-banks. These 2 are the Feds window into every move you make, think what they do (collect personal data about you, your family and your friends), buying habits, your personal finances and your complete lifestyle. They will be a de facto extension of the Federal govt. The power agencies will be the FBI, EPA and IRS. The military will shrink to a shell of its former self and will make pre WWII military seem powerful by comparison. The people will live under the yoke of a $TRILLIONS in debt. (anyone wonder why Obama was not stopped and allowed to run up $10 TRILLION over only 8 years, now you know, it was part of the plan).

    Open borders, WIDE open. The enforcers will be the local police, they will do as the Chief tells them to do. Police are not the most conservative already and what few are will be purged. When the guns are banned the police forces will hire up to "protect" (then why is they always show up AFTER the RAPE, the MURDER??) MS13, Bloods, Crips will rule the cities.

    Got to court and you will have the option to be tried under Sharia law or Mexican law.

    If your White and not living in an interracial family unit, life is not gonna be good.

    Federal judges will make law from the bench and do so as they see fit, don't be white and if you did not vote for the current dictator in chief, you are going to jail!


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    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil;
    Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness;
    Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!
    21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes
    And clever in their own sight! Isaiah 5:20-21 NASB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    Care to place a bet?


    I have led a clean life, clean enough to carry a TSBI with Nuclear access. Never been to jail or charged with a crime of any kind, other than some speeding tickets. I have no illegitimate kids, never gambled, never bankrupt, never done any illegal drug or smoked pot and never been sued.

    BUT I will bet money the if you UNLEASH the FBI and put the full force of the govt, along with lawyers and who knows who else I bet $$$ you can find some tabloid material...my almost 25 years of being single and a string of broken hearts I left behind as I put my focus on my career after a bad and ugly divorce.

    None of us are without sin or without screwups as we drove down the highway of life and if you look at the trash on Trump its nothing but tabloid stuff, well WE ALL can generate some tabloid junk fake news.

    THEY ____, ____, ____, etc etc are after him and fake news, LIES, there is NOTHING off limits and sooner or later they will find something he did xx years ago that someone wants to spin into to something just short of murder and a hidden body.

    I have already talked to people that were Trumps supporters that don't think they will vote for him if it runs again. WHY? They cannot even tell you who their local Mayor is. IOW they are not tuned into politics and all they catch is a few snippets here and there of Trump fake news which has gone on day and night for over a year...this is called stacking, hear it often enough and you soon begin to believe.
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    impeachment is highly possible if the dems take the house. They will make it top priority, ignoring everything else just to "get Trump" regardless that nothing rises to the level of impeachment. It is personal with them and their hatred for Trump is greater than their love of this Country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole Cowboy View Post
    THEY ____, ____, ____, etc etc are after him and fake news, LIES, there is NOTHING off limits and sooner or later they will find something he did xx years ago that someone wants to spin into to something just short of murder and a hidden body.
    What leads you to believe that anything will carry on business-as-usual after all of this? What makes you think that the governed will fully give their consent to the government after everything that has (up to now) been exposed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockntractor View Post
    I would like to see a list of what they got right.

    On the other part of the discussion, mr bill was impeached but that was as far as it went.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasp69 View Post
    What leads you to believe that anything will carry on business-as-usual after all of this? What makes you think that the governed will fully give their consent to the government after everything that has (up to now) been exposed?
    'cause its like gun control, been happin for 84 years and no one has stopped it yet, nor are they likely to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole Cowboy View Post
    'cause its like gun control, been happin for 84 years and no one has stopped it yet, nor are they likely to.
    Gun control hasn't been stopped? If that were the case, we would have been completely disarmed a long time ago. "Gun control" is the new third rail of politics, having replaced social security.

    No, I'm sorry, things have changed - the election of Trump (and the 2 year long tantrum) have ensured it's not likely to go back to what the ruling class consider "normal" for a very long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasp69 View Post
    Gun control hasn't been stopped? If that were the case, we would have been completely disarmed a long time ago. "Gun control" is the new third rail of politics, having replaced social security.

    No, I'm sorry, things have changed - the election of Trump (and the 2 year long tantrum) have ensured it's not likely to go back to what the ruling class consider "normal" for a very long time.

    1934

    The first piece of national gun control legislation was passed on June 26, 1934. The National Firearms Act (NFA) — part of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s “New Deal for Crime“— was meant to curtail “gangland crimes of that era such as the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre.
    The NFA imposed a tax on the manufacturing, selling, and transporting of firearms listed in the law, among them short-barrel shotguns and rifles, machine guns, firearm mufflers and silencers. Due to constitutional flaws, the NFA was modified several times. The $200 tax, which was high for the era, was put in place to curtail the transfer of these weapons.
    1938

    The Federal Firearms Act (FFA) of 1938 required gun manufacturers, importers, and dealers to obtain a federal firearms license. It also defined a group of people, including convicted felons, who could not purchase guns, and mandated that gun sellers keep customer records. The FFA was repealed in 1968 by the Gun Control Act (GCA), though many of its provisions were reenacted by the GCA.
    1939

    In 1939 the U.S. Supreme Court heard the case United States v. Miller, ruling that through the National Firearms Act of 1934, Congress could regulate the interstate selling of a short barrel shotgun. The court stated that there was no evidence that a sawed off shotgun “has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia,” and thus “we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.”
    1968

    Following the assassinations of President John Kennedy, Attorney General Robert Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., President Lyndon B. Johnson pushed for the passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968. The GCA repealed and replaced the FFA, updated Title II of the NFA to fix constitutional issues, added language about “destructive devices” (such as bombs, mines and grenades) and expanded the definition of “machine gun.”
    Overall the bill banned importing guns that have “no sporting purpose,” imposed age restrictions for the purchase of handguns (gun owners had to be 21), prohibited felons, the mentally ill, and others from purchasing guns, required that all manufactured or imported guns have a serial number, and according to the ATF, imposed “stricter licensing and regulation on the firearms industry.”
    1986

    In 1986 the Firearm Owners Protection Act was passed by Congress. The law mainly enacted protections for gun owners — prohibiting a national registry of dealer records, limiting ATF inspections to once per year (unless there are multiple infractions), softening what is defined as “engaging in the business” of selling firearms, and allowing licensed dealers to sell firearms at “gun shows” in their state. It also loosened regulations on the sale and transfer of ammunition.
    The bill also codified some gun control measures, including expanding the GCA to prohibit civilian ownership or transfer of machine guns made after May 19, 1986, and redefining “silencer” to include parts intended to make silencers.
    1993

    The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 is named after White House press secretary James Brady, who was permanently disabled from an injury suffered during an attempt to assassinate President Ronald Reagan. (Brady died in 2014). It was signed into law by President Bill Clinton. The law, which amends the GCA, requires that background checks be completed before a gun is purchased from a licensed dealer, manufacturer or importer. It established the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), which is maintained by the FBI.
    1994

    Tucked into the sweeping and controversial Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, signed by President Clinton in 1994, is the subsection titled Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act. This is known as the assault weapons ban — a temporary prohibition in effect from September of 1994 to September of 2004. Multiple attempts to renew the ban have failed.
    The provisions of the bill outlawed the ability to “manufacture, transfer, or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon,” unless it was “lawfully possessed under Federal law on the date of the enactment of this subsection.” Nineteen military-style or “copy-cat” assault weapons—including AR-15s, TEC-9s, MAC-10s, etc.—could not be manufactured or sold. It also banned “certain high-capacity ammunition magazines of more than ten rounds,” according to a U.S. Department of Justice Fact Sheet.
    2003

    The Tiahrt Amendment, proposed by Todd Tiahrt (R-Kan.), prohibited the ATF from publicly releasing data showing where criminals purchased their firearms and stipulated that only law enforcement officers or prosecutors could access such information.
    “The law effectively shields retailers from lawsuits, academic study and public scrutiny,” The Washington Post wrote in 2010. “It also keeps the spotlight off the relationship between rogue gun dealers and the black market in firearms.”
    There have been efforts to repeal this amendment.
    2005

    In 2005, the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act was signed by President George W. Bush to prevent gun manufacturers from being named in federal or state civil suits by those who were victims of crimes involving guns made by that company.
    The first provision of this law is “to prohibit causes of action against manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and importers of firearms or ammunition products, and their trade associations, for the harm solely caused by the criminal or unlawful misuse of firearm products or ammunition products by others when the product functioned as designed and intended.” It also dismissed pending cases on October 26, 2005.
    2008

    District of Columbia v. Heller essentially changed a nearly 70-year precedent set by Miller in 1939. While the Miller ruling focused on the “well regulated militia” portion of the Second Amendment (known as the “collective rights theory” and referring to a state’s right to defend itself), Heller focused on the “individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia.”
    Heller challenged the constitutionality of a 32-year-old handgun ban in Washington, D.C., and found, “The handgun ban and the trigger-lock requirement (as applied to self-defense) violate the Second Amendment.”
    It did not however nullify other gun control provisions. “The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms,” stated the ruling.
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    2018

    DEERFIELD, Ill. – Members of the village board in the northern Chicago suburb of Deerfield have voted unanimously to ban certain semi-automatic firearms.

    WLS-TV in Chicago reports the amendment to the village’s gun ordinance restricts firearms that village leaders define as assault weapons along with high-capacity magazines. That includes the AR-15, which has been used in mass shootings. The new law goes into effect June 13. Residents who don’t remove banned weapons by then face a fine of $1,000 a day.

    The ordinance is based on Highland Park’s high-powered weapons ban, which survived a 2015 legal battle that went to the U.S. Supreme Court.

    Deerfield Village Manager Kent Street said if more towns banned the weapons then it’s possible the state and federal government will too. Opponents of the ban say it makes Deerfield less safe.

    http://fox2now.com/2018/04/04/illino...ce-1000-fines/

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