View Poll Results: Did you vote for evil oil or protecting the caribou?

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    Have none of you even thought about what you are talking about? Demand for oil is world wide therefore price is set world wide not regionally. You can only lower the price of oil if you can out pump world wide demand. It is a ridiculous proposition and you expect a dignified response? If you really want to pay less for fuel then get a hybrid and/or drive fewer miles but drill offshore then continue to do as you are now and you are going to pay exactly what the world wide market dictates-which will be more. So when you accomplish nothing in drilling offshore what is your purpose of drilling offshore?

    Think about what you are talking about and maybe my response wouldn't be so curt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    It appeals to simpletons, morons, and those who refuse to think for themselves.
    Sounds like a liberal in projection mode to me.

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    To drive down the price of oil supply would have to exceed demand.
    Not true. Doing nothing would only increase the price because demand is only expected to increase with the emergence of China and India's economies. Even if there's no possible way of offsetting an increase of 1 barrel on the demand side with 1 barrel on the supply side, increasing the supply even partially will make that barrel cheaper than it would have been by doing nothing.

    You liberals are such defeatists. You really should stay home on election day because your one vote will have such little effect against the millions that will be cast for McCain.

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    You got the ďstupidĒ part right but little elseÖ
    There's that projection thing again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeskibuff View Post
    Is this a trick question or what?

    You failed to mention the OTHER element that determines the "price set by the international market": SUPPLY.

    When you increase supply, that usually decreases the price. Also, since the price of a barrel of oil nowadays is influenced more by speculators than by the actual supply, knowing that tomorrow's oil is not as subject to the whims of a limited number of Middle Eastern whackos should help to drop the price on the commodities market. Increasing our capability to supply our own needs will not only help achieve that energy independence, but it WILL reduce what we pay per barrel.
    Bull!!! Both ANWAR and offshore at full capacity will not put a dent in worldwide supply and you forget that as you put cheaper sources on-line more expensive sources go off-line leaving net supply unchanged. Oil men are not the idiots that you portray and they will not pump themselves into bankruptcy. You are correct about speculation though and as with all speculative bubbles it too will pop. Then price will come down but it will have nothing to do with drilling offshore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeskibuff View Post
    Sounds like a liberal in projection mode to me.

    Not true. Doing nothing would only increase the price because demand is only expected to increase with the emergence of China and India's economies. Even if there's no possible way of offsetting an increase of 1 barrel on the demand side with 1 barrel on the supply side, increasing the supply even partially will make that barrel cheaper than it would have been by doing nothing.

    You liberals are such defeatists. You really should stay home on election day because your one vote will have such little effect against the millions that will be cast for McCain.

    There's that projection thing again.
    Projection? Coming from the collective that thinks we are going to have blackouts because of the price of oil and your attempt at insult isnít.

    "It would be a relatively small effect, because it would take such a long time to bring those supplies on," Ö"It doesn't affect prices that much." Guy Caruso, head of the federal Energy Information Administration.

    This is your guy. If your own people donít think it is going to have an impact why do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeskibuff View Post
    Not true. Doing nothing would only increase the price
    Rig count is nearing record levels. How is it you think we are doing nothing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    Bull!!! Both ANWAR and offshore at full capacity will not put a dent in worldwide supply and you forget that as you put cheaper sources on-line more expensive sources go off-line leaving net supply unchanged. Oil men are not the idiots that you portray and they will not pump themselves into bankruptcy. You are correct about speculation though and as with all speculative bubbles it too will pop. Then price will come down but it will have nothing to do with drilling offshore.
    At the present time, we are only drilling in a small area in the Gulf of Mexico. Additonally, how do you know that drilling in the offshore area and off the east and west coast will not make a huge difference along with drilling in Anwar. Are you a mind reader or a geologist. There are areas of huge deposits of oil and gas within the 48 states. For example, a huge natural gas discovery was recently made below Shreveport La. It was just discovered a few weeks ago by (CHK).

    Don't you just love it when dumb asses talk about the oil business and don't know their ass from the hole in the ground. BTW, the announcement of drilling in Anwar and the offshore area are would have a huge physiological effect which would cause the price to go down. If you have ever followed the stock market, perception has a great deal of influence on oil stock prices and retail prices of gasoline. .
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    Huntington Beach Oil Production Figures for 2007:

    Offshore: 1, 603,000 barrels

    Onshore: 473,000 barrels

    Total Barrels: 2, 076,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    In Texas we have a surplus of oil and yet we pay only a few penny's below national average. Why?

    Because, as you said earlier, Oil exists as a world commodity. The price is not locally set, it is set by WORLD supply and demand factors.

    We have enough oil HERE to affect world supply significantly - but the Democrats and the eviro-idiots keep preventing us from developing it and then they prevent us from refining it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Constitutionally Speaking View Post
    Because, as you said earlier, Oil exists as a world commodity. The price is not locally set, it is set by WORLD supply and demand factors.

    We have enough oil HERE to affect world supply significantly - but the Democrats and the eviro-idiots keep preventing us from developing it and then they prevent us from refining it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterS View Post
    Projection? Coming from the collective that thinks we are going to have blackouts because of the price of oil and your attempt at insult isnít.

    "It would be a relatively small effect, because it would take such a long time to bring those supplies on," Ö"It doesn't affect prices that much." Guy Caruso, head of the federal Energy Information Administration.

    This is your guy. If your own people donít think it is going to have an impact why do you?
    ANWR and other remote areas wold take a while to bring oil to market, but allowing us to drill offshore where we have the infrastructure close by would begin producing marketable oil in @ 1 year.
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