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  1. #1 We Never Went to the Moon 
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    Here's some stuff that convinced me we never went to the moon.

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=n1UEv2PIzl4

    At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.

    There's an analysis of it here at the 3 minute 5 second mark.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC1legw5-gs
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=rC1legw5-gs

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    There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

    http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rm
    3W's (dot) hq (dot) nasa (dot) gov/alsj/a11/a11v (dot) 1101330 (dot) rm

    What I hypothesize is that a fifty percent slow-motion was used in Apollo 11 to simulate lunar gravity. Later, they improved thier methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.

    At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
    http://video.google.es/videoplay?doc...26565081757736
    video (dot) google (dot) es/videoplay?docid=4135126565081757736

    It can also be seen in this video at around the 30 minute 55 second mark.
    http://video.google.es/videoplay?doc...69088210976286
    video (dot) google (dot) es/videoplay?docid=-7335269088210976286

    It looks just like movement in earth gravity.

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    When the footage from this clip is doubled, the movements look unnaturally fast.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

    Here it is doubled.
    http://www.youtube (dot) com/watch?v=G29WT2_y1-E
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=G29WT2_y1-E

    When the Apollo 11 footage is doubled, the movements look natural. This makes it very clear that they used a simple fifty percent slow-motion to simulate lunar gravity in Apollo 11 and a faster slow-motion (around 67 percent according to Jarrah White's calculations) combined with wire supports in the later missions.
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    If you look at the acceleration of the object that falls from the astronaut's backpack and the acceleration of the hammer and feather that fall, it's apparent that the there's a difference in the way gravity affects the objects.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=5C5_dOEyAfk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=AK2Fy85VyRg

    Evidently the slow-motion speed is different.
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    Watch how the corner of Collins' jacket moves in this clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_CMgqitv98
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=I_CMgqitv98
    (50 second mark)

    It swings back and forth the way it would in gravity.

    Look at the corners of the jacket the woman astronaut is wearing in this clip.
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TejsnPThmd4
    uk (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=TejsnPThmd4


    This is real zero-gravity and they behave quite differently.

    One possible explanation is that they were trying to fake zero-gravity in a diving plane and the plane wasn't diving fast enough at that point.
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    Here are some videos.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ

    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=EQj-Mh__fRc
    es (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=EQj-Mh__fRc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vENebR5hsRs
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=vENebR5hsRs

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rhoWabHSm_g
    uk (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=rhoWabHSm_g

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1gD2P-Po_Gk
    uk (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=1gD2P-Po_Gk

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EaV7QB_ReTw
    uk (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=EaV7QB_ReTw

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0ohDdNRq2Og
    uk (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=0ohDdNRq2Og

    http://www.thule.org/brains/moon.rm
    3W's (dot) thule (dot) org/brains/moon.rm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIWhzTzLn0
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=UmIWhzTzLn0
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    What Happened on the Moon" (documentary)
    Part 1
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...09579385499503
    video (dot) google (dot) com/videoplay?docid=-3622009579385499503

    Part 2
    http://video.google.es/videoplay?doc...16594425246748
    video (dot) google (dot) es/videoplay?docid=-3186616594425246748
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    http://es.youtube.com/results?search...rch_type=&aq=f
    es (dot) youtube (dot) com/results?search_query=moonfaker&search_type=&aq=f

    Here are some articles.
    http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/
    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
    http://www.aulis.com/skeleton.html
    http://erichufschmid.net/Interview-w...rt-Sibrel.html
    http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
    http://www.aulis.com/investigation.htm


    The astronauts look pretty nervous at the press conference.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

    Here's a link to the entire conference.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...24572487804641
    video (dot) google (dot) com/videoplay?docid=1535324572487804641

    This keeps going on and offline so if this link is dead, try googling "Apollo 11 press conference".

    Their behavior look pretty suspicious here too. It begins in the second half of the video.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...15730495966561
    video (dot) google (dot) com/videoplay?docid=-2265515730495966561
    Last edited by Cosmored; 12-27-2008 at 11:39 AM.
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    One of the reasons they had to fake it might have been space radiation. Here's some stuff I found about space radiation.

    http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
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    There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.


    Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vENebR5hsRs
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=vENebR5hsRs

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ65d30kYME
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=oZ65d30kYME

    two sets of radiation data
    http://hey_223.tripod.com/bulldogleb...oooo/id82.html
    (excerpt)
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    To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
    OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
    to
    disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
    unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
    really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]

    Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
    one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
    likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)
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    http://ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo5.htm
    http://www.erichufschmid.net/MoreInf...Challenge.html
    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/in...9659&hl=apollo

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    http://www.buzzcreek.com/grade-a/MOON/articles1.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rotplZn0g
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=f2rotplZn0g

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKB5u_VTt6M
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=OKB5u_VTt6M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcytzf7PkRA
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=pcytzf7PkRA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6DhY1NvmIc
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=J6DhY1NvmIc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ltWMbHdDU
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=T1ltWMbHdDU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnckudD9oa8
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=mnckudD9oa8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTzo3G_hvo
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=LiTzo3G_hvo

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFiIR7hA1rM
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=dFiIR7hA1rM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toI1Xw9paW4
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=toI1Xw9paW4
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xlKooAbKpM
    3W's (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=9xlKooAbKpM
    (this has more than 20 parts)
    Last edited by Cosmored; 12-27-2008 at 11:49 AM.
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    I hope you're not going to post all 20.
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    Thought something smelled bad in here....ok, which one of you left the door open and allowed this Conspiridiocy Theory DUmmy in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillygirl View Post
    I hope you're not going to post all 20.
    Of course he will PG. When you have no life, much like our friends at the DUmp, you have time to do worthless stuff like this.
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    I hope you're not going to post all 20.
    No. That won't be necessary.

    Thought something smelled bad in here....ok, which one of you left the door open and allowed this Conspiridiocy Theory DUmmy in?
    Let's hear some analyses of the evidence instead of rhetoric and invective. If a theory is wrong, it will fall by its own lack of merit. No rhetoric is necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmored View Post
    Let's hear some analyses of the evidence instead of rhetoric and invective. If a theory is wrong, it will fall by its own lack of merit. No rhetoric is necessary.
    Sorry, I have a life..unlike you. Go peddle you load of crap over at the DUmp...they're just the people you want to talk to...ignorant and wanting to dwell on the past.
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    If we faked it, why did we do it more than once? Why risk that this massive conspiracy would come unraveled because of an accident?
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    Don't have such an open mind your brain falls out.

    A few key points... follow the link to see more.

    http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/moonhoax2.html

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    1. CLAIM The moon landing was faked on a movie set. Proof there are clearly two sources of light in the movies and stills taken on the moon. Since there is only one source of light in the sky (the sun) how can we explain the fact that even in shadows there is obvious "fill" light that illuminates various objects that, back lit from the sun, should be in near total darkness. Much of the show was spent on this point as they showed photo after photo, film after film, of "filled in" photos. Fill light is exactly what you would see on a studio set.

    ANSWER Even granting that NASA's rocket scientists were too dumb to have thought of this and thus tipped their conspiracy hand to the no-moonies who, apparently, are smarter than rocket scientists, there were actually three sources of light on the moon the sun, the earth that reflects the sun's light, and the moon itself, also reflecting light. The albedo (reflectivity) of the earth is quite high because of the amount of clouds, so the sun acted as the light filler via the earth. And the moon was, to say the least, rather close, and also reflected light.

    2. CLAIM The American flag was "waving" in the allegedly airless environment of the moon. How can this be? Proof film footage showing the astronauts planting the flag, with the flag clearly waving.

    ANSWER Of course the flag was "waving" while the astronaut was fiddling with it back and forth as he jammed it into the hole. But the moment he let go of the flag, it mysteriously stopped waving. Umm, coincidence? I don't think so.

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    11. The Van Allen radiation belts surrounding the Earth would have fried the astronauts with a lethal dose of radiation.

    ANSWER Wrong. If you blast right through the Van Allen belts it is no problem, which is what the Apollo astronauts did. X-rays would be lethal too, if you sat there soaking in them long enough. A very real problem, however, are cosmic rays. They are not a problem on a short flight like to the moon, but in long flights that might last years, like to Mars, they could be a serious problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    If we faked it, why did we do it more than once? Why risk that this massive conspiracy would come unraveled because of an accident?
    And after all of these years, much like the supposed JFK assassination conspiracy, how come nobody has come forward and talked?
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