House Democrats call for nationalization of refineries

**lacarnut** · 07-02-2008, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by FeebMaster

If a Republican proposed this and wrapped it up in some free market, small government speak, 90% of CU would be all over it.

Only a dumb ass non-voter would believe that crap.

**enslaved1** · 07-03-2008, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by FeebMaster

If a Republican proposed this and wrapped it up in some free market, small government speak, 90% of CU would be all over it.

How, pray tell could any one spin such a pitiful attempt at socialism into a free market solution? This ain't DU, we usually read past the letter behind the proposer's name.

Goldwater · 07-03-2008, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by FeebMaster

If a Republican proposed this and wrapped it up in some free market, small government speak, 90% of CU would be all over it.

Not 90%, but there would be a few unfortunately.

**FeebMaster** · 07-03-2008, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by enslaved1

How, pray tell could any one spin such a pitiful attempt at socialism into a free market solution? This ain't DU, we usually read past the letter behind the proposer's name.

Sure you do. They'd say privatization or quote Reagan and you'd be down on your knees in half a blink. Even the ones who see it for what it is would try and justify it with a half-hearted "well it would be even worse if the Democrats did it."

**enslaved1** · 07-07-2008, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by FeebMaster

Sure you do. They'd say privatization or quote Reagan and you'd be down on your knees in half a blink. Even the ones who see it for what it is would try and justify it with a half-hearted "well it would be even worse if the Democrats did it."

I'd call them a spineless socialist, regardless of their party affiliation or what quotes they pull out of their butt. Mind digging out some examples of where such pandering has occurred here? I know we lost the archives, but if we are as dronish as you are claiming, surely some more examples have come up.

**biccat** · 07-07-2008, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by FeebMaster

Sure you do. They'd say privatization or quote Reagan and you'd be down on your knees in half a blink. Even the ones who see it for what it is would try and justify it with a half-hearted "well it would be even worse if the Democrats did it."

So don't vote for them.

Oh, wait. I forgot. You gave up your right to participate in our democracy.

GTFO. KTHXBAI.

**FeebMaster** · 07-07-2008, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by enslaved1

I'd call them a spineless socialist, regardless of their party affiliation or what quotes they pull out of their butt. Mind digging out some examples of where such pandering has occurred here? I know we lost the archives, but if we are as dronish as you are claiming, surely some more examples have come up.

Oh come on. Pick a thread. W's prescription drug plan, Thompson's plan for federal matching funds for retirement, pretty much anything having to do with gun control or immigration proposed by a Republican, Reagan's entire presidency, John McCain. Sure you get a few people here and there who will agree that such and such a proposal from some Republican is crap, but generally the best you get is an "omg democrats worse."

If the Republican's nationalized the oil companies, they could tie it in with taxes. You get a little slice of the profits taken directly out of your tax bill. CU would eat that up.

Originally Posted by biccat

So don't vote for them.

Oh, wait. I forgot. You gave up your right to participate in our democracy.

GTFO. KTHXBAI.

I vote for the person I feel is best qualified to represent me.

Now go vote for a commie and make yourself feel better.

**enslaved1** · 07-07-2008, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by FeebMaster

Oh come on. Pick a thread. W's prescription drug plan, Thompson's plan for federal matching funds for retirement, pretty much anything having to do with gun control or immigration proposed by a Republican, Reagan's entire presidency, John McCain. Sure you get a few people here and there who will agree that such and such a proposal from some Republican is crap, but generally the best you get is an "omg democrats worse."

If the Republican's nationalized the oil companies, they could tie it in with taxes. You get a little slice of the profits taken directly out of your tax bill. CU would eat that up.

That's a cop out. Burden of proof lays on the prosecution. I think you are right about some folks, but I want your proof.

Personally, I think the drug plan was a whole lot of fertilizer,and I don't think the government should bail out those of us who haven't planned ahead for retirement. It IS one of the government's jobs to enforce the laws of the land, and several of those laws dictate the proper way to enter the country and enjoy the benefits of citizenship.

**FeebMaster** · 07-07-2008, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by enslaved1

That's a cop out. Burden of proof lays on the prosecution. I think you are right about some folks, but I want your proof.

I'm not interested in proving anything to you. What would it accomplish? If I can show you that there are 3 people on CU who aren't dirty commies, are you going to stop voting for closet socialists? If you do, is that going to change anything?

Tell you what. I'm too lazy to dig for threads, but I'll go start a poll in GD that will show you how much state worshipping scum there is floating around this place.

Originally Posted by enslaved1

Personally, I think the drug plan was a whole lot of fertilizer,and I don't think the government should bail out those of us who haven't planned ahead for retirement.

Good for you. Have a cookie and vote for McCain.

Originally Posted by enslaved1

It IS one of the government's jobs to enforce the laws of the land, and several of those laws dictate the proper way to enter the country and enjoy the benefits of citizenship.

Yes, yes. That's why the general Republican cry to fix immigration is "GIVE US MORE LAWS!" and not "hey let's get rid of all these social programs that allegedly attract all these illegal immigrants" and "hey let's make it easier to own a gun and defend yourself from the horde of crime committing illegal immigrants flooding the nation."

**enslaved1** · 07-07-2008, 02:16 PM

If your not interested in proving anything, than what is the point of debate?

Quotes are goobering up, but I'll credit you for admitting to being lazy, and will patiently await your poll. and what it proves to me. (although I think searching would be less work than making up a poll)

I will go vote for McCain, out of fear of the alternative if nothing else, and out of belief that dropping out of the system does nothing to change it.

And finally, we know that most Republicans are politicians first, Republicans second. They say what they think will keep them in office, not what will actually fix the system. They also know the paintbrush that they will be painted with if they were to suggest that horrible evil of ...gasp....responsibility to the entitlement society.