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    No surprise, Willard racks up a big win in the Utah Senate primary. He can take over from McCain as the leader of the GOP Obstructionist Caucus in the Senate. He wants to run for the WH in 2020. If he does, I think he'll do about as well as Jeb. I will never, never vote for him again. Not gonna hold my nose, no "lesser of two evils" BS for me. NO WAY.
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    I thought the Bronx dem primary was kind of interesting, in that a total newcomer 28 year old beat a long-time incumbent, by around 15 points. She's much further to the left of me, but still, she got out the vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    I thought the Bronx dem primary was kind of interesting, in that a total newcomer 28 year old beat a long-time incumbent, by around 15 points. She's much further to the left of me, but still, she got out the vote.
    The thing with primaries, which plagues both parties, is that the most extreme wings turn out in wildly disproportionate numbers; six years ago the GOP lost what should have been an easy win in a Senate race here because of that, but considering how heavy Dem control is in NYC (Outside of Staten Island) this particular wackadoodle may well win in the general elaction.
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    Anyone watching the Florida governor debate on Fox? Ron DeSantis against Adam Putnam. Putnam, the agriculture commissioner of Florida, reminds me of Eddie Haskel---on that old show "Leave it to Beaver." He never answers the questions, sounds like Foghorn Leghorn, a cartoon character who pontificates and BS's.

    (For any younger people on the board, Eddie Haskel on Leave it to Beaver was a weasel friend of Wally Cleaver, who always sucked up to the mom.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaintLouieWoman View Post
    Anyone watching the Florida governor debate on Fox? Ron DeSantis against Adam Putnam. Putnam, the agriculture commissioner of Florida, reminds me of Eddie Haskel---on that old show "Leave it to Beaver." He never answers the questions, sounds like Foghorn Leghorn, a cartoon character who pontificates and BS's.

    (For any younger people on the board, Eddie Haskel on Leave it to Beaver was a weasel friend of Wally Cleaver, who always sucked up to the mom.)
    Watched what I could stand. Whole debate and using that term loosely was both of them arguing that they were more like Trump then their opponent. No substance, no real talk of the issues. I would have to give DeSantis a slight edge for the debate, only because he got a couple decent jabs in that left Putnam speechless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    I thought the Bronx dem primary was kind of interesting, in that a total newcomer 28 year old beat a long-time incumbent, by around 15 points. She's much further to the left of me, but still, she got out the vote.
    She will be the new shiny toy of the left and they will tout her as presidential material in 2024 because, well, darn it, it's time we had an inexperienced socialist latina in charge of the Country. Anyone who says otherwise is racist...
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    Our primaries in MI are August 7. We have a governor's race, and Sen. Stabenow is up for re-election. The dems don't really have a good Governor's candidate, but who knows. Snyder poisoned a city. His Lt. Governor (Calley) is running against current AG Schutte and former state Senator Patrick Colbeck. Schutte and Colbeck are pretty conservative.

    The dems have an Indian guy who is a scientist by trade (Shri Thanador, or something like that), a Muslim guy from Detroit who has a good record because he saved the city health department after bankruptcy (Abdul) and some chick the unions are endorsing who is not from the metro Detroit area. Shri was doing a great job of campaigning as the "most progressive candidate"-single payer health care, pro legal recreational weed, typical liberal issues until it was discovered he had an ownership role in a lab that used dogs for testing. Abdul probably has the best experience in managing and budgeting, but he doesn't have a chance state wide because he is a Muslim. And MI dems continue to lack understanding of their own state by pushing some woman (Gretchen something or other) from outside the Detroit area-she will get a handful of votes from the rest of the state, but will need to get most of her votes from metro Detroit and Lansing. I'm not sure who I'm voting for at this point.

    I'm not sure who is running in the GOP primary to run against Debbie in the fall. Kid Rock was at one point talking about it, but decided not to (I think he was going to challenge her at the primary level as a democrat). I think Justin Amash, my mom's congressman in GR, is running. I don't know if he has any opposition. I think Stabenow will keep her seat, but Amash runs to the libertarian side and could swing over some independents. My mom, who is to the left of me, says he's not so bad and he's kind of nice-looking. Legal weed is on the November ballot, so there will probably be a big turnout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Watched what I could stand. Whole debate and using that term loosely was both of them arguing that they were more like Trump then their opponent. No substance, no real talk of the issues. I would have to give DeSantis a slight edge for the debate, only because he got a couple decent jabs in that left Putnam speechless.
    My favorite moment was DeSantis's retort to Putnam's claim to be such a big Trump supporter. It seems that Putnam heavily supported Jeb Bush. The hypocrisy is strong with Mr Putnam. I do not intend to vote for him in the primaries.

    It was a joke of a debate. Putnam was the bigger offender in never answering a question, just going off on a rant.
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