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    Let's not forget that polls prior to the 2016 election showed Hispanics breaking 8 to 1 against Trump. When the dust settled it turned out to be about 2 to 1. THEY FORGOT TO ASK THE RESPONDENTS TO THE POLL IF THEY WERE CITIZENS.
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    I'm sorry but I just don't see voters, even actual working Democrat voters, voting to give up their tax cuts and extra money in their paychecks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    I'm sorry but I just don't see voters, even actual working Democrat voters, voting to give up their tax cuts and extra money in their paychecks.

    Considering how many of them are on the dole...I doubt they'll miss what they aren't getting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRG View Post
    Considering how many of them are on the dole...I doubt they'll miss what they aren't getting.
    True enough. Creating dependency is the way governments oppress their populations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    True enough. Creating dependency is the way governments oppress their populations.

    And it's how they control them too...just dangle that fear of not getting their free government cheese every month if they don't vote the "correct" way and you've got a ballot cast for your party every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJCardFan View Post
    I'm sorry but I just don't see voters, even actual working Democrat voters, voting to give up their tax cuts and extra money in their paychecks.

    Excuse me, TRG and Elspeth, but he said WORKING Democrat voters, of which there are 10's of millions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old dog View Post
    Excuse me, TRG and Elspeth, but he said WORKING Democrat voters, of which there are 10.

    Fixed
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    TRG, many voters vote in their economic interests with extreme prejudice, whether they are on the dole or working people. But there people "on the dole" who support the President and working people who support the progressive agenda. It would be best to get your head back in the real world and not make bogeymen out of all democrat voters. Ridiculous stereotypes lead to ridiculous prejudices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old dog View Post
    TRG, many voters vote in their economic interests with extreme prejudice, whether they are on the dole or working people. But there people "on the dole" who support the President and working people who support the progressive agenda. It would be best to get your head back in the real world and not make bogeymen out of all democrat voters. Ridiculous stereotypes lead to ridiculous prejudices.
    For starters...I never said that there weren't people on welfare that don't support Trump.

    I very much am in the "real world"...and I can comment on how I see things as I please...just like you can...it's one of the great things about living in America.


    And the fact of the "real world" is that the majority of people on welfare and some kind of "unfunded liability" as they are called in the budget...support and vote Democrat. Just like a large number of rich white Liberals vote for the destructive progressive agenda too.

    Both sectors consistently vote against their own self interest.

    If that weren't the case you wouldn't have blacks voting in the 95-98% range for Democrat every single year.

    LBJ was right about the passage of his Great Society welfare package. And it continues to be true some 50+ years later.


    It's not a stereotype...it's just reality.
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    Here's another does of "the real world"

    The only reason we don't have Sanders in office right now...IMHO...is because Clinton and the DNC rigged who was awarded delegates in the primaries in her favor. The clear favorite on the DNC side of the 2016 was Bernie Sanders.

    Had he won the nomination instead of Hillary I believe that tragically for the U.S. the outcome would have been different as to who won in November 2016.

    I mean just look at the radicals that have taken over the DNC...Ellison and Perez...look at Ocasio's win in New York and the fact that DiFi didn't get the endorsement of the California Democrat Committee.

    The purge of the "old bulls" of the DNC is beginning. The same people who ousted Democrats like Zell Miller...Sam Nunn...are now finding themselves being challenged and in some cases defeated by the new DNC/Socialist youth movement.

    The radicalism of Bernie Sanders and Ocasio is the new face of the Democrat Party...and they've had decades to radicalize and indoctrinate generations into their world view.

    He had the colleges and the unions and the people that have been indoctrinated to get something for nothing from the government motivated and energized.

    His promises of free tuition...free single payer health care...living wage...open borders...$15 minimum wage for burger flippers..higher taxes on the 1%...all the crap that Socialists toss out to these kids that don't know any better would have gotten them out to vote for him. He was to the left of Hillary and the young people and unions and the Media loved him and wanted him to win over Hillary in the primaries.

    Ocasio preached the same message and she won....we shouldn't discount that because of how few got out and voted.

    I have no doubt if Slow Joe runs in 2020 he'll move that far left too.
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