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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimsouth View Post
    Maybe our country has run it's course. Sobering thought; but history has shown us, many times, great nations have come & gone. We are no different. The wrong people in power can easily drag a country down. Insane ideologies can be very insidious ( regardless of their documented history of failures ); and if a single generation is swayed, it can be devastating. .....
    We have always found a way to triumph. We emerged from a civil war after which slavery was no longer the law of the land.
    Women eventually were seen as more than a husband's or father's property. We survived the beginning of the nuclear age and are able to harness that power for good instead of just destruction The rights of minorities are now protected by law from those that would seek to have them remain subhuman. We have moved our people and machines into space and beyond the Solar System.

    The follies of a few will not be our downfall.

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    See what I’ve seen in 77 years and there will be no doubt left. The US is on its final flight path nose first into the ground and the only question is how steep the dive is.
    Very wrong! I much prefer the 2010's to the 1970's
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    Socialism may not be the final nail in the coffin but a saying from long ago tells the story and it will be true some day.

    A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury.
    Alexander Fraser Tytler

    No, we are not yet a democracy but that change is coming sooner or later. Either that or something equally bad or worse.
    It's not how old you are, it's how you got here.
    It's been a long road and not all of it was paved.
    . If you ain't havin' fun, it's your own damn fault
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranb View Post
    ........I much prefer the 2010's to the 1970's
    That explains a lot. A follower of the little o and his apology cult.
    It's not how old you are, it's how you got here.
    It's been a long road and not all of it was paved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlaGator View Post
    If you look at the fall of the Roman Empire or the decline of Hellenistic culture you will notice some similarities they had with the United States. A decay of morals and ethics, an introduction of multiculturalism, weakening of the military and a preponderance of internal fighting that opened their societies up to external pressures that eventually brought about their downfall.
    The moral bankruptcy of the likes of Nixon, Clinton and Trump will not be the downfall of the USA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retread View Post
    That explains a lot. A follower of the little o and his apology cult.
    Other than Obama's record on gun control compared to gun grabber Trump, I've never had a good thing to say about Obama on this forum. Your overactive imagination is not an adequate substitute for actual facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retread View Post
    ....No, we are not yet a democracy but that change is coming sooner or later. Either that or something equally bad or worse.
    Do you prefer a democracy in which the majority can stomp on the rights of minorities or a republic in which people are better protected? Or something else?
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    I dare say even AOC could not kill America. She would do damage, for sure, and then a "repairman" will come in to fix most of it. The day after election day she will get reality briefings on how the world really works. And by then we will have enough Trump appointed judges throughout the federal system and supreme court. To the left and their heroic 9th Circus Court of Appeals: "as you sow, so also shall you reap". She would less success in implementing a full blown socialist/communist government than President Trump, blessings be upon him, has of completely draining the swamp. I'M NOT PREDICTING SHE WILL EVER BE PRESIDENT but we'll have a democrat in the WH eventually ... hopefully at least 10 years down the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranb View Post
    Do you prefer a democracy in which the majority can stomp on the rights of minorities or a republic in which people are better protected? Or something else?
    It's being a Republic that keeps our Democracy in check. I am not at all a fatalist; so don't think my original post points to that. I am simply concerned over what I am seeing. That being, the snowballing of ignorance from people who support Socialism, but know little or nothing about it. Old adage: If you think education is expensive, check the price of ignorance. Concerning those taken in by Socialism; regardless of how good the deal may look, when the smoke clears, those involved realize too late, the price paid was far too high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranb View Post
    The moral bankruptcy of the likes of Nixon, Clinton and Trump will not be the downfall of the USA.
    Yes, but the moral degeneration began as far back as the 50s and 60s will. Drug use, the sexual revolution, abortion, degradation of the family structure, acceptability of violent solutions to differences, corruption of government and educational institutions, correction of the mass media, infighting between ethnic groups, multiculturalism, gender confusion, a prevalence of identity politics and corruption of religion. All those things will lead to the downfall of the USA. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this started in the 50s. It started long before that but it started to become an erosive force on our culture post World War II. It tends to coincide with the rise of Postmodern thought and with the acceptance of the Frankfurt School of thought and the inability of the left to accept the failure of Marxism and Socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranb View Post
    Do you prefer a democracy in which the majority can stomp on the rights of minorities or a republic in which people are better protected? Or something else?
    Well, Doctor, what have we gota Republic or a Monarchy?

    A Republic, if you can keep it.

    I prefer the original republic, note the small r. That started dying within years of the origin of the country. Its been sliding down for close onto 250 years. Its not going to stop or reverse so the end will come.

    I repeat - if you favor the 2010s you have to be a dim supporter as they were driving the train. Your secret is no more. Youre irrelevant.
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    It's been a long road and not all of it was paved.
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