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  1. #1 For the lurkers: It's not about religion; it's about infanticide 
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    Attention DUpipo:

    Most Americans don't want to outlaw abortion for rape, incest, and life of the mother. (They are, however, divided about elective abortion without one of those three conditions being present.)

    If Democrats had been content to leave well enough alone when it came to abortion, states like Georgia and Alabama would appear horrifically extreme to the general public right now. However, when Democrats overtly articulate support for infanticide--the killing of a baby AFTER birth, while it is breathing outside the mother's body--George and Alabama look like necessary correctives to an entirely immoral extreme. Infanticide is revolting to normal people, and the thought of breaking the infanticide barrier alarmed many people who ordinarily would not have paid attention.

    Over the past year, Planned Parenthood and feminist groups have been pushing bills that allow abortion DURING birth (or, at very least, don' t prohibit it). This was clearly demonstrated in Virginia:



    This questioning of VA State Delegate Tran was devastating to the abortion cause and caught the attention of many people who had not been keeping up with the abortion issue or thought it was settled except for a few kooks.. Tran's video was then followed up by this:



    The VA governor went from abortion DURING birth to abortion AFTER birth. Governor Northam was talking about actual murder and was implying that it was routinely being done is some late term abortion cases. Here again, the ProLifers had been saying this for years, but they were thought to be hyperbolizing extremists. No less than a governor of a state backed up the ProLifers' own claims.

    If the Democrats had been content to leave well enough alone and not push abortion up until the moment of birth (and after), the ProLife hardliners might never have been able to get two state legislatures to push through a counterweight abortion bill. It would have been too risky. But, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, and extreme actions bring extreme reactions. If you push hard, the push back will be hard.

    Remember, up until the two Virginia videos above, most secular folks thought Pro Lifers were exaggerating when they claimed that abortion "kills babies." Most secular voters agreed with the idea that a dependent fetus was not a separate person. However, NO secular voter can deny that a baby lying on a table in a surgery room--a baby breathing and moving--is a separate person. And the fact that Democrats supported killing (or allowing to die) these live, separate babies was a shocker and eye-opener to secular people who were inclined to either support or, at least, not legally obstruct abortion procedures.

    You can't blame the Christians here, DUpipo: you've done it to yourselves.
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    Ad hominem attacks like the fauxny Theocracy Narrative are attempts to avoid discussing the real issues.
    Facts don't matter to DUpipo.

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    Note to "Warpy" and "shockey80": I voted for Donald Trump! I would do so again!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SVPete View Post
    Ad hominem attacks like the fauxny Theocracy Narrative are attempts to avoid discussing the real issues.
    California is persecuting Daleiden now:

    California Supreme Court sides with Planned Parenthood in baby body parts case
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ca...ody-parts-case

    The California Supreme Court has denied David Daleiden's petition to halt criminal prosecution against him. Daleiden is the undercover journalist whose videos allegedly reveal the involvement of abortion industry workers in illegal baby body parts trafficking. The Petition for Review, filed April 25, 2019, asked the state's high court to overrule the Superior Court of San Francisco County's order permitting the unconstitutional intervention of special interest groups in the criminal prosecution....

    ...California Attorney General Xavier Becerra is spearheading the prosecution of Daleiden, levying 15 criminal felony counts for non-consensual eavesdropping and conspiracy against him as a result of the abortion industry video exposés. Becerra is the successor to current Democratic presidential candidate Kamala Harris, who began the political prosecution and, like Harris, has been closely allied with, and supported by, Planned Parenthood.

    The Petition pointed out that the prosecutors are biased and that the trial judge's orders permitting Planned Parenthood's lawyers to intervene in a criminal prosecution and permitting Daleiden's accusers to testify anonymously and sealing the evidence after the hearing all deny Daleiden his rights under the Constitution to an unbiased prosecution and a fair and public trial. Because the California Supreme Court refused to hear the appeal, the preliminary hearing, which the Supreme Court suspended in April, will be put back on the criminal court felony calendar, and the Thomas More Society will have the opportunity to cross-examine the abortion providers under oath as it puts the State to its burden of proving that it had probable cause to file the politically motivated felony charges in the first place.

    The not-for-profit Thomas More Society has been defending Daleiden across the country as Planned Parenthood Federation of America, together with multiple affiliates, and the National Abortion Federation have brought civil lawsuits against him. Abortion-friendly officials have pressed criminal charges against Daleiden, most notably, with this case in San Francisco and a previous one in Houston, Texas, where the Thomas More Society succeeded in have all charges against Daleiden dismissed.
    By the way, Xavier Becerr is the DNC lacky who left the DNC server wide open to the Awan brothers and is thought to be responsible for the server's disappearance.

    Imagine having this crook prosecuting you.
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