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  1. #1 Title IX and a reason to LOVE Amy Coney Barrett 
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    I'm putting this article here because Title IX is a "social justice" issue and is being used to unfairly expel males from university with false charges. Amy Coney Barrett provides one of the few bright lights in this Title IX mess. If Trump can get her on SCOTUS, he has my vote for eternity and beyond.


    The background of this article is a case involving a scholarship ROTC student whose girlfriend attempted suicide. John Doe (as he is called in court papers) reported his then girlfriend's attempt to Purdue University officials. The relationship ended at this point.

    The following April, this ex-girlfriend apparently told a victim's advocacy group on campus (CARE) that Doe had had "non consensual sex" with her. I say apparently because the ex's own words never enter into the case. CARE writes a report about what the ex allegedly said and forwards this report to the Dean who oversees the investigation.

    The investigation involves two investigators who NEVER speak to the ex. Ever. They do speak to John Doe, who has a witness (his roommate) who can back him up, but the investigators NEVER speak to the roommate either. These investigators issue their own report, which John Doe is not allowed to see. This investigative report has NO direct statement from the accusing ex, only the CARE report, which is hearsay. (CARE, by the way, is biased, and part of the Doe's later court case is about CARE's postings on Facebook which show their bias.)

    At Purdue, a three-person panel meets with the Dean and Doe to "discuss" their investigative report and they find Doe guilty. The accusing ex is NOT at this meeting and there is no written statement directly from her either.

    Doe took the case to court. His first time around, the court went against him. On appeal, he got Amy Coney Barrett (Peace be upon her!)


    A Federal Court Takes on Title IX
    https://www.mindingthecampus.org/201...s-on-title-ix/

    ...Doe appealed. He drew an all-female panel in the Seventh Circuit—Amy Coney Barrett, Diane Sykes, and Amy St. Eve. Two exchanges captured Purdue’s difficulty.

    The first, between Judge Barrett and Purdue’s lawyer, William Kealey, centered on the due process implications of procedures in which the accuser never even produced a statement, much less appeared before a hearing.



    The second, between Barrett, Kealey, and Judge Sykes, exposed the improper pleading standard that Magistrate Judge Cherry had applied in his ruling.



    It took more than nine months for the court to issue its ruling, written by Judge Barrett. It sided with Doe on both due process and Title IX counts. The due process section particularly focused on the myriad flaws in Purdue’s accumulation and use of evidence. A Title IX adjudication, Barrett wrote, demanded “relatively formal procedures,” and yet “Purdue’s process fell short of what even a high school must provide to a student facing a days-long suspension.” The refusal to share with Doe the investigator’s report, according to Barrett, “was itself sufficient to render the process fundamentally unfair.”

    The hearing Purdue provided was little more than a “sham.” To Barrett, “it is unclear, to say the least, how Sermersheim and the committee could have evaluated Jane’s credibility,” given that they never heard from her. The conduct was even more “puzzling” given that Doe’s “roommate—with whom Sermersheim and the Advisory Committee refused to speak—maintained that he was present at the time of the alleged assault and that Jane’s rendition of events was false.”
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    Judge Barrett, generally, is a good one, and I'm sure all the "right people" hate her and have dug up the time in Kindergarten when she cut another girl's hair, which shocked the teacher who didn't think their scissors could cut anything.

    Colleges and universities across the nation have been systematically pulling the kind of Feminazi Star Chamber crap like Purdue, and have been losing court cases because of it. Were Trump to lose that progress toward justice would probably grind to a halt and reverse.
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    That is messed up. The girlfriend never made any charges, some other person basically made up the whole story and that was used as evidence in a university investigation.

    But at MSU, an OB/GYN molested several girls and the university ignored multiple complaints and only eventually did something about it due to intense media scrutiny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    That is messed up. The girlfriend never made any charges, some other person basically made up the whole story and that was used as evidence in a university investigation.

    But at MSU, an OB/GYN molested several girls and the university ignored multiple complaints and only eventually did something about it due to intense media scrutiny.
    These are two different incidents. Students play by one (unfair) set of rules, but faculty and staff have more rights (unless they are more politically conservative).

    A university's reaction to student-on-student sexual incidents is based entirely on the Department of Education's 2011 "Dear Colleague" letter which forced schools into a "preponderance of the evidence" standard (50.01%) on sexual assault (of any kind). Essentially, an accused student can be suspended or expelled on a coin toss plus a smidge of certainty. Universities were basically threatened financially (via student loans) if they did not comply. Remember, the government actually took over the student loan program in 2010, so the threat had real teeth.

    The Dear Colleague Letter has been chiefly applied to student-on-student interactions. The "Star Chambers" that SVPete refers to have been primarily geared toward student complaints about other students.

    MSU is not the only place where faculty or staff have gotten special treatment: Berkeley has another famous case. A 2017 study found that sexual harassment (though not necessarily assault) is rampant among professors and their grad students. We don't know how many of these sexual harassment cases concern grad students who feel forced/intimidated into having sex with their powerful professors--this would be a type of non-consensual (forced) sex which could count as sexual assault these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elspeth View Post
    These are two different incidents. Students play by one (unfair) set of rules, but faculty and staff have more rights (unless they are more politically conservative).

    A university's reaction to student-on-student sexual incidents is based entirely on the Department of Education's 2011 "Dear Colleague" letter which forced schools into a "preponderance of the evidence" standard (50.01%) on sexual assault (of any kind). Essentially, an accused student can be suspended or expelled on a coin toss plus a smidge of certainty. Universities were basically threatened financially (via student loans) if they did not comply. Remember, the government actually took over the student loan program in 2010, so the threat had real teeth.

    The Dear Colleague Letter has been chiefly applied to student-on-student interactions. The "Star Chambers" that SVPete refers to have been primarily geared toward student complaints about other students.

    MSU is not the only place where faculty or staff have gotten special treatment: Berkeley has another famous case. A 2017 study found that sexual harassment (though not necessarily assault) is rampant among professors and their grad students. We don't know how many of these sexual harassment cases concern grad students who feel forced/intimidated into having sex with their powerful professors--this would be a type of non-consensual (forced) sex which could count as sexual assault these days.
    As far as MSU is concerned, the doctor molested more than just female students. He was the doctor for gymnastics programs that used MSU facilities, and molested girls under 18 in that capacity. Simone Byles was one of his more prominent victims. I'm not sure of her exact age, but at the time, she was under 18.

    I knew a few girls in college who slept with profs hoping that would help raise the GPA. I never would consider it rape in a criminal sense, but the prof should be fired for inappropriate behavior. I'm sure that at least some girls who do that would be more than eager to scream rape if they didn't get the grade they expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noonwitch View Post
    As far as MSU is concerned, the doctor molested more than just female students. He was the doctor for gymnastics programs that used MSU facilities, and molested girls under 18 in that capacity. Simone Byles was one of his more prominent victims. I'm not sure of her exact age, but at the time, she was under 18.
    Ah, I read about this case. His high standing probably protected him longer than the average health center doctor.


    I knew a few girls in college who slept with profs hoping that would help raise the GPA. I never would consider it rape in a criminal sense, but the prof should be fired for inappropriate behavior. I'm sure that at least some girls who do that would be more than eager to scream rape if they didn't get the grade they expected.
    There are always opportunists who will use sex to get ahead. (Look at Kamala.) However, there are grad students who feel forced and intimidated into it. There's the famous case of Avital Ronell, a female professor, who seems to have intimidated her male student into a sexual relationship.

    Speaking of recalcitrant faculty, here is another prof who is still getting his salary after a sexual assault indictment.
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